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Title: Growth ring on belly of bow.
Post by: Drew3 on November 10, 2016, 05:34:08 pm
One of the growth rings on the belly of my Osage bow looks like it is pealing up. About 4in down from center of bow, on bottom limb. Is this safe? Any way to fix it
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Post by: Chippintuff on November 10, 2016, 05:39:47 pm
They will want pictures.

WA
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Post by: Drew3 on November 10, 2016, 05:53:54 pm
Just got the bow from Primitive Pathways, going to email him soon. Made by Dan Spier. Post pictures soon
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Post by: Pat B on November 10, 2016, 05:56:29 pm
If the early ring is failing and delaminating it's not good. If it just somehow lifted the feathered edge I'd just saturate it with super glue and sand it smooth.
 If you just bought the bow, let the builder handle it.
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Post by: Drew3 on November 10, 2016, 06:16:43 pm
Here it is
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Post by: upstatenybowyer on November 10, 2016, 06:18:51 pm
I agree with Pat, let the builder take care of this one.
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Post by: PatM on November 10, 2016, 06:31:41 pm
That looks a lot more like a lam or patch, not a growth ring. Is it truly mid limb?
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Post by: bubby on November 10, 2016, 06:54:09 pm
That looks a lot more like a lam or patch, not a growth ring. Is it truly mid limb?


Thats what I'm thinking too pat looks like a totaly different pc of wood
Title: Re: Growth ring on belly of bow.
Post by: PatM on November 10, 2016, 07:02:18 pm
That looks a lot more like a lam or patch, not a growth ring. Is it truly mid limb?


Thats what I'm thinking too pat looks like a totaly different pc of wood

  Have we agreed twice today? What's going on here!!!
Title: Re: Growth ring on belly of bow.
Post by: bubby on November 10, 2016, 07:06:08 pm
That looks a lot more like a lam or patch, not a growth ring. Is it truly mid limb?


Thats what I'm thinking too pat looks like a totaly different pc of wood

  Have we agreed twice today? What's going on here!!!



I know it's like were in the twilite zone lol
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Post by: sleek on November 10, 2016, 07:12:57 pm
Hell, I see the pencil mark across it from the patch layout
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Post by: sleek on November 10, 2016, 07:14:51 pm
I dont know what the deal was, if you got a discounted bow, or if he told ypu it was repaired or not, but that is not looking safe. Got a full pic of the belly area on it?
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Post by: bradsmith2010 on November 10, 2016, 07:20:21 pm
hard to tell from the pic,, can you send more shots,, but I really agree, that does not look good
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Post by: Drew3 on November 10, 2016, 08:47:46 pm
Upon closer examination it looks to be a patch. Bad vision sucks, maybe glasses will help!   ;D
Don't know if I should sent it back? No mention of patch when I bought it. Thank for all the help even with my half blindself providing info.
Title: Re: Growth ring on belly of bow.
Post by: Drew3 on November 10, 2016, 08:48:43 pm
Can't get full limb pic to resize small engough. Email the seller waiting on reply.
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Post by: PatM on November 10, 2016, 09:13:24 pm
Take a pic from farther away so we can see the perspective a bit better.
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Post by: Drew3 on November 10, 2016, 09:44:36 pm
This better. Had to crop the last one and resize it to get it to work.
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Post by: sleek on November 10, 2016, 10:04:26 pm
Thats a patch. And he even signed the patch.  Wow
 Bad form sending that quality out without your consent.
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Post by: sleek on November 10, 2016, 10:06:29 pm
I see evidence of attempted heat treat to stiffen the area and bad glue up. I wouldnt give that bow away, much less sell it. Dude, have the seller make it right.

Is that a saw dust filler in the side also? Man, how much did you pay for it?
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Post by: Dances with squirrels on November 10, 2016, 10:34:30 pm
Try to send it back and get a different bow... or a refund.
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Post by: FilipT on November 11, 2016, 03:36:36 am
Jesus, can't believe what things is someone selling today. Wondering when some "bowyer" will sell bow with broken limb that he "fixed" by gluing it.
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Post by: mikekeswick on November 11, 2016, 03:48:04 am
To do a patch like that takes some skill and plenty of luck. I don't see these things as fixes, it is more of a last ditch attempt to make something work when really it is toast.
It is not even close to acceptable for a bowyer to send out a new bow like this.
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Post by: PatM on November 11, 2016, 10:37:26 am
These bows are sold through a dealer so there will  probably be some "chain of blame"  to work through.
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on November 11, 2016, 10:53:15 am
Cant believe somebody would put a bow for sale with that kind of patch. I wouldn't even use it myself let alone sell it.
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Post by: PatM on November 11, 2016, 11:24:50 am
I wonder if the builder is a guy who posts on here?
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Post by: DavidV on November 11, 2016, 11:34:44 am
Do patches like that even work? I remember reading on here that they will all give up eventually, never tried it.
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on November 11, 2016, 11:49:34 am
Depends on who you talk to, David. Personally I like to have genuine trust in my hunting bows, or I simply don't shoot them well at all. I short draw and snap shoot horribly when I'm skeptical of a wood bow.
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Post by: DC on November 11, 2016, 11:53:28 am
I've done a couple like that that worked fine. But----I have too many bows and they each don't get used that much. I wouldn't pass one on.
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Post by: osage outlaw on November 11, 2016, 12:17:42 pm
How long ago did you buy the bow?
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Post by: Drew3 on November 11, 2016, 01:04:23 pm
Just got it yesterday evening. Ordered it from Primitive Pathways website. Going to return it. Though for my first truly primitive bow I would trust him but never again.
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on November 11, 2016, 01:08:20 pm
I can see some rot along the edge below the patch. Just not good all around, especially to sell undisclosed to the buyer.
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Post by: bushboy on November 11, 2016, 01:16:31 pm
Pat i'm surprised you didn't recognize the name(not to spill the dirt)!
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Post by: bradsmith2010 on November 11, 2016, 03:31:02 pm
yes,, on a positive note,, I am sure they will refund your money,,
next time,,, maybe consider buying from an individual that has a reputation for quality work,, there are lots of great wood bow makers now,, that would be glad to make you a quality bow that would be representative of what a wood bow should be,,
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Post by: FilipT on November 11, 2016, 05:00:30 pm
Prim. Path. youtube channel has good osage flatbow tutorial and bows this guy sells are good also. This bow was made from friend of PP founder, am I right?
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Post by: Drew3 on November 12, 2016, 07:25:22 pm
All I know is he just sells them for someone else.
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Post by: JW_Halverson on November 14, 2016, 02:33:35 pm
Dang, Drew, I feel bad for you.  Where do you live?  There is a more than fair chance one of us lives close to you and can help walk you through making something better than that!!!


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Post by: osage outlaw on November 14, 2016, 05:49:11 pm
Any update?  What did Billy have to say about the flaw?
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Post by: Pappy on November 16, 2016, 08:57:50 am
I know Dan very well and I am sure if you contact him he will make it right. He usually makes good bows from the ones I have seen, don't know what happened here but I feel sure he will make it right if given the chance and not just ran through the dirt.
 Pappy