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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: aaron on November 05, 2016, 08:42:01 pm

Title: good yew, bad yew? (updated with pics)
Post by: aaron on November 05, 2016, 08:42:01 pm
I am going to a friends house on the oregon coast to cut down a yew she wants gone. I am fairly certain its not a pacific yew.It is growing in partial sun next to a garage. It has multiple vertical stems, is quite branchy. The side facing the garage looks mostly free of branches. She says her place was once a plant nursery so perhaps it is an overgrown ornamental variety or something. One question is how to I.d. the various yews. Another question is  are there yews that are not good for bows?. I will get pics when I go down there to get it.
Title: Re: good yew, bad yew?
Post by: upstatenybowyer on November 05, 2016, 08:47:23 pm
Sounds like Irish Yew (Taxus baccata 'Fastigiata). Tim Baker describes it in TBB 4.
Title: Re: good yew, bad yew?
Post by: PatM on November 05, 2016, 09:17:09 pm
Up here typical ornamental "tree" yews are just European Yew while the shrubbier types are the "Irish" cultivar or Japanese/hybrid varieties
 Remember trees don't recognize national boundaries. ;)

   I have tested  a lot of samples from these trees and they are all really good at bending and recovering. It comes down to how much character you can tolerate.
Title: Re: good yew, bad yew?
Post by: High-Desert on November 05, 2016, 09:20:28 pm
Yes, I'd second the Irish yew, but it could also be the common ornimentalplant, Japanese yew, Podocarpus macrophylla, which is not a yew at all. When you get a chance, post some pictures of it.

Eric
Title: Re: good yew, bad yew?
Post by: Pat B on November 05, 2016, 09:45:46 pm
A pic with a close up of the needles and the whole plant in the ground. Growth characteristics, as well as needles can be a good ID tool.
 I have a pole from what I think was Japanese yew I cut 5 or 6 years ago on a landscape job. It should be ready to do something with
Title: Re: good yew, bad yew?
Post by: PatM on November 05, 2016, 11:04:52 pm
Yes, I'd second the Irish yew, but it could also be the common ornimentalplant, Japanese yew, Podocarpus macrophylla, which is not a yew at all. When you get a chance, post some pictures of it.

Eric

  There is actually a Japanese Yew as well.
Title: Re: good yew, bad yew?
Post by: Chris3kilo on November 06, 2016, 01:13:47 am
Japanese yew = Taxus cuspidata
Common yew = Taxus Baccata
I can't even see the difference between them
Title: Re: good yew, bad yew?
Post by: Del the cat on November 06, 2016, 03:53:45 am
Just make a bow and see how it turns out... there is so much variation in Yew I wouldn't bother sticking labels on it. I've had suckers which had shot up from ancient Yew 6" diameter that was poor, and scruffy pale wide ringed stuff that was great.
Del
Title: Re: good yew, bad yew?
Post by: Marc St Louis on November 06, 2016, 08:58:51 am
Could also be Hicks Yew
Title: Re: good yew, bad yew?
Post by: PatM on November 06, 2016, 09:26:03 am
That one is a hybrid of Japanese and English.
Title: Re: good yew, bad yew?
Post by: wizardgoat on November 06, 2016, 11:49:47 am
I agree with Del. When you work enough Yew up see all sorts of different stuff and the only real way to find out is to make a bow. ive had real pale yew with rings thicker than premium Osage, and I was very happy with the bows.  I haven't messed with any of my landscape yew yet, I have one stave that has just ONE 1/8" sapwood ring.
Title: Re: good yew, bad yew?
Post by: penderbender on November 06, 2016, 02:31:51 pm
Goat, one sapwood ring. That sounds interesting. I have found with tighter ringed yew has about 16 sap rings and with thicker ringed stuff usually about 6. Never had any landscape stuff though. Got a pic of it? Cheers- Brendan
Title: Re: good yew, bad yew? (updated with pics)
Post by: aaron on November 08, 2016, 07:40:48 pm
pictures follow. lots of sapwood and wide rings.
Title: Re: good yew, bad yew? (updated with pics)
Post by: aaron on November 08, 2016, 07:43:50 pm
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Title: Re: good yew, bad yew? (updated with pics)
Post by: DC on November 08, 2016, 07:52:10 pm
I'm sure there's a bow or two in there :) :)
Title: Re: good yew, bad yew? (updated with pics)
Post by: upstatenybowyer on November 08, 2016, 07:52:50 pm
Some of those look decent, lots of character. Think I'd take off some heartwood and back it. As it's been said, ya never know til' ya try! Lots of luck ;)
Title: Re: good yew, bad yew? (updated with pics)
Post by: WillS on November 09, 2016, 04:20:04 am
That's Taxus fastigiata or "Irish yew".  We have it in abundance in churchyards in the UK as its so quick growing.  Landscape yew, it's called as it works well for hedges and decoration.

I've never been a big fan of it, but as with all bow woods you never know if you've got a really good bit until you try it.