Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: amateurhour on October 31, 2016, 10:42:25 pm
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Hey I've got family in AL and another pipeline blew up in Helena, AL about five or so hours ago so if any of you in Georgia or TN need to get gas get it in the morning.
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Aren't the pipelines natural gas?
Zuma
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No it's car gas. I can see the smoke from this at my house, hopefully it doesn't spread....
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Got a little more info but not much. I don't THINK this one will affect us as bad as the last one because it looked like they got everything sealed up this time, but you know everyone will be out filling up three cars with full tanks of gas so it's probably going to be running low for a day or two.
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Several week back the Underground Gasoline Pipeline that runs to Birmingham Al. from someplace South popped a major leak. Thousands of gallons of gasoline were spilled onto the ground.
The line was shut off and temporary and repairs were made by placing a line on top of the ground.
Yesterday while working to repair the Underground Line a piece of construction equipment hit the temporary line causing another leak and the fire. A berm was built to contain the spilled gas and it is going to be allowed to burn off. What a mess.
Most all of the gasoline for North AL, South TN and North West Ga. passes through this pipe line.
Several years back some company wanted to extend the pipeline to Huntsville AL. They could never get regulatory permission to cross the TN. River so the project was never started.
David
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Thanks Trevor. I never knew there was
gasoline in pipelines. I wonder if it comes
out of the Chevron outfit in Pascagoula MS?
I don't think there are any refineries east of there?
Zuma
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I hope that doesn't mess me up driving to Twin Oaks Thursday night.
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Crap. Im headed to North Carolina coast starting today for a new contract. Hope its not too much a challenge to go theough Tennessee.
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I searched Colonial Pipeline.
Pretty amazing. Gasoline and other liquid fuels are
pumped out of Texas across the Gulf states, up into
SC, NC, VA, MD and NY and a branch up into TN.
Started in 1965.
Not the most stellar track record though.
Zuma
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I have been hoping to find something about how old this pipeline is, what were the standards for this particular pipeline when it was built, and what current technological standards would be for a replacement of this line.
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Like above JW.
Planning stage for years before start in 1965.
Google Colonial Pipeline, Scads of info.
Quite suprising to me.
Zuma
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They should be able to sleeve the old pipeline with new material. They won't do it because it is cheaper to have ruptures.
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Neuse: Unfortunately, I fear that you are correct.
The fire continues to burn.
A large investigation into Colonial Pipeline has begun.
One man dead four other injured.
The price points of their business may change......
David
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Getting dangerously close to introducing politics into this, but by banning new pipelines, we are dooming ourselves to dealing with more and worse ruptures of aging infrastructure.
We are long overdue for the next generation of power. Infernal combustion is a thing from the late 1800's.
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We lived in the mountains of northcentral PA for 20 years. Other than my boyhood hometown in Indiana, this was considered our hometown. Here's what happened to my fav trout and smallmouth fishing streams just a few weeks ago.
http://www.pennlive.com/news/2016/10/gasoline_spill_in_lycoming_cou.html
55,000 gallons of gasoline into a run (small creek) that drains into much bigger creek that drains into north branch of Susquehanna River.
End of aquatic life for years to come and threat to drinking water for many communities.
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I have researched the subject on perpetual motion, and have seen some cool stuff, but whether its feasible or not remains to be seen and is not available to the public as a green energy source.
Personally I think its attainable.
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Entropy
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Entropy
Second law of thermodynamics and all.
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Well, the Pipeline is back in operation this morning.
Don't know if the repairs that were made are permanent or temporary.
Lots of clean-up over the next few weeks.
David
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What really grinds my gears is that there is a renewable energy source that could replace fossil fuels in a heartbeat but it takes political will to accomplish. Fusion. There is no new discoveries that need to be made to do fusion reactors, all the science is there, it's just going to cost an enormous amount of money at the outset to get the ball rolling. What we need is an Apollo level project in this country to come together like we did in the space race and build these reactors, once they are up and running it's virtually endless energy with no waste.