Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: Pappy on October 27, 2016, 05:32:53 am
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Got my PA magazine day before yesterday, looks pretty good, I like the new format and some of the stuff they have expanded into. Should help the grow and thrive as we all know they have to do to keep it going. :) Looks like Marie got a promotion, cool and good for her. Proud of you and I am sure she can handle it. Man some of the letters were tough, guess the article in mention didn't bother me that much but looks like it did a lot of folks. :o Hope they get over it and move on and don't leave the PA family. Great bunch of people and great Magazine. ;) :) Keep up the good work. :)
Pappy
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Got both of my favorite magazines yesterday as well. I believe I have every PA magazine since the start. Everyone is a good one as far as I am concerned. I read letters to the editor that were sent in. I guess I really didn't catch what the beef was about the article that was written that some complained about. No matter it is just a good magazine for the most part. All do good job.
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Agree JEB, some folks are just to sensitive ??? I tell folks all the time when they say things that offend me " That would have hurt my feeling, IF I had any " ;)
Pappy
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I haven't read mine yet. I did see my name was mispelled in the BOM section :-\
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How do you misspell Osage outlaw ??? I see you but didn't notice that. :)
Pappy
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I was sad to read Tony had a heart attack, but glad to see he is doing better now. I was glad to see Mike leave and glad to see Ed become editor. Unless we are just chimneys here, I'd guess Ed is a bit more energetic and responsive. I can only assume the magazine will run smoother now.
Jon, pappy the "beef" was all about proper content, not much else. PA mag isn't a political platform. Don't care who you are or what you own, Im not buying junk like that. I told Clint last Tuesday that my subscription was running out and it can stay that way. Then I read Ed's letter of explanation last night. Thanks to Ed, I will re-new and gladly send my HARD earned money his way. I'm quite certain I am just one of many that feel the same way.
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I didn't fully disagree with the article itself, nor was I offended by it (annoyed by one or two points) but PA is a primitive archery magazine.
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I haven't got mine yet, I sure hope it comes and I don't have to call someone again. I've only been in this community for a short time. I really like the magazine, but to be totally honest I enjoy the PA site even more. I really hope neither goes away. It's really nice to have something so down to earth in this sometimes wacky world where just showing the most skin seems to make some people rich and famous and they get to stand on their soap box. I must admit I can certainly see why no one wants to listen to any political stuff it's hard to believe this is the best of the best. I'm going to vote but gee I think we need to raise the ladder a few rungs.
Bjrogg
PS I don't want this to turn into a political thread here just giving my humble unbiased opinion
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Ya lots of things in this old world I don't agree with, I just speak my mind, but I don't take my ball and go home. ;)
Pappy
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A few of us Admins and Mods have worked long and hard to keep politics and religion off of the the PA website and I think we've done a damn good job. That's why I felt the need to write my feelings in a letter to the Editor. I've met all the PA folks and spend time at the Tennessee Classic talking to them ALL(not just Marie ;) ) and they have all known my feelings for a while now...and they still let me hang around. ;D
As far as what's coming up in PA I'm not sure until I see it in writing. I think black powder(the real stuff) fits in ok with the direction PA Magazine has come. I'm not fond of the FG bow articles but can live with it if that is what it takes to keep PA afloat.
Anyway, thanks to PA for all it has done for the world of wood bows and I look forward to at least 25 more years of enjoyable reading and many more conversations with the members of our great website. Change is inevitable. Lets make the best of it and enjoy.
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Well stated Pat, and nice letter also. ;)
Pappy
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I need to renew. That being said, The lack of political junk is what brings me back here day after day. I get to read and learn and not have to deal with the political BS that is so rampant everywhere. Thanks to the mods and members for making this such a great place to come and learn.
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Didn't get mine yet. Please remember all that without the magazine this message board will cease to exist so try and support the mag as much as possible
P.S. Just out of curiosity and I'm not sure if it's possible but if the e-mag was available per issue how many would take advantage of it.
P.P.S. I am really curious now. I will set up a poll to see what the response is
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if it came to that, I would be willing to host this board if I was allowed to have all the data... and if the traffic isn't too outrageous... haha. I already host a forum out of my pocket, but it has rather low traffic.. just one VPS
I completely agreed with your letter, Pat B
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The lack of political junk is what brings me back here day after day. I get to read and learn and not have to deal with the political BS that is so rampant everywhere. Thanks to the mods and members for making this such a great place to come and learn.
X2 :) :)
Zuma
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I can do without the political talk. I don't mind them branching out into related topics. I know a lot of PA folks are into blackpowder. I'd like to see articles on stuff like making a hunting knife, hide tanning, and maybe trapping for fur. I think all of those are related to primitive archery in one way or another.
Pappy, a detailed brain tanning article would be nice. Hint hint ;)
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So would a knife making article, Clint, hint, hint ;). I need to get off my butt and do one on making mocassins.
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Agree Eddie....when I was first on PA there were a lot more build alongs.....When hunting season is over we have got to promote more of them......
DBar
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How does a person submit a story to PA? I have actually thought about writing a article but really have know idea what the process would be to submit a story.
Bjrogg
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Found my mag on the porch with the other mail when I got home today and flipped through the pages. I read Simon's HLD article and Ryan Gill's hunt story right away and will get to the rest before it goes into the rack to be pulled out and enjoyed again someday in the future. The black powder is fine with me. I don't hunt with it but dream about getting into it someday
and learning about it through PA may get me motivated to pick up yet another hobby that I don't have time for. :)
Nice work by all involved on the magazine, looks good.
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I love the magazine! I do miss medicine man though.
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I have my elk hunt story written, just have to final edit it and select some pics. Then it will get emailed to the office to see if they pick it up.
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Bj and Scott, contact Ed Ingold (Editor@primitivearcher.com). He will let you know about submitting an article. I know all pics need to be high resolution. PA is always in need of new articles. Looking forward to reading them.
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Pappy, the comment about being offended, if you had feelings. I say that almost everyday.
I haven't had a subscription for awhile , but it was a e-mag, which I got because it was cheaper, but I'm not a big fan of reading magazines online. I like paper. Thats just me, most are more into the computer stuff than I am. if things have changed, I may have to finally subscribe.
I do like the idea of adding the muzzleloader stuff and other crafty stuff we all seem to like, but isn't the Backwoodsman magazine pretty similar to that? Id be all about it if it made the magazine thicker and not cut back on the archery material.
Eric
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I don't know what the e-mag is like but it seems to me that it would be advantageous to be able to print the mag out, or at least the pages you want to.
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MORE cooking recipes (Dutch Oven type), the moccasin article/how to would be a good one also. The other magazine that I won't mention asks for suggested articles for future print. That may be something the P.A. could do and ask for also.
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I'm not a big e-mag fan, but with the current deal. That's hard to beat. I had to sign up.
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Happy to see Marie getting a step up, as I am rather fond of that highly qualified young lady!
I am also very relieved to see Ed's response to the last issue's situation. I am very pleased to hear that it is the intent of the magazine to remain above the political discourse.
And while I understand that magazines, like everything else, are subject to change and evolution, I am holding back judgment on the announced plans to include fiberglass and firearms. Many of you know I am very much a dedicated flintlock shooter/hunter and that I have built a few, too. In fact, had I not been in the primitive gun/reenactment scene, I may not have even come to primitive archery! But there is already a magazine dedicated to fiberglass Traditional Bowhunter, several for the Muzzleloader that enjoys resounding Muzzle Blasts, and even for those that practice the Backwoodsman skills. I sincerely worry that changes will dilute the one and only magazine dedicated to the Primitive Archer.
To that end, my very nearly expired subscription will be renewed, albeit for just one year as I closely watch what happens in the next six issues content.
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Happy to see Marie getting a step up, as I am rather fond of that highly qualified young lady!
I am also very relieved to see Ed's response to the last issue's situation. I am very pleased to hear that it is the intent of the magazine to remain above the political discourse.
And while I understand that magazines, like everything else, are subject to change and evolution, I am holding back judgment on the announced plans to include fiberglass and firearms. Many of you know I am very much a dedicated flintlock shooter/hunter and that I have built a few, too. In fact, had I not been in the primitive gun/reenactment scene, I may not have even come to primitive archery! But there is already a magazine dedicated to fiberglass Traditional Bowhunter, several for the Muzzleloader that enjoys resounding Muzzle Blasts, and even for those that practice the Backwoodsman skills. I sincerely worry that changes will dilute the one and only magazine dedicated to the Primitive Archer.
To that end, my very nearly expired subscription will be renewed, albeit for just one year as I closely watch what happens in the next six issues content.
I am with you JW
Hope things work out for the magazine
I am sure Marie will give it her best as allways
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I don't have a problem with some muzzleloader content in the magazine but I'm sure not to keen on fiberglass bows being elevated to the level of the wood bow
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@ Pat B - you aint met me! but I aint been to the classic either! come on out west for a visit!
I am still at a point the the subscription price is out of reach!
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Ben, you are in our travel plans when we finally get to do our Western States motor car/travel trailer tour. When that will be we aren't sure but if our wishes come true like they have in the past it will come. I'll be wearing my Fred Bear hat with the coolest beaded hatband ever when we come. 8)
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When you get there take the private yosemiteben tour and see things most don't at yosemite😂plus ol' ben may play his flute under the falls for you
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Wow a real flute under a real falls put that on a CD cause that would be sweeeeet
may even earn ya enough to pay for a magazine subscription
the ones I have been looking at on line are kinda fake sounding
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guy there is nothing fake sounding when Ben plays. Plus Ben and his wife Kimberly know all the backstorys about Yosemite, his wife used to be the story twller their. Plus they are the nicest people you could meet
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Did they quit putting medicine man in the mag?
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Yeah i think i read that they lost the guy rhat wrote it
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Fell a bit behind on my reading as life sometimes gets in the way. With the Archery Deer Season upon us, I especially spend much of my spare time in the woods. After reading the first few comments in this thread, I had to get the magazines out and see for myself.
Many of us have had the pleasure of sitting around Pappy's campfire. For those that haven't, you quickly notice that political topics aren't discussed around the fire. Its a rule. No matter what your personal opinions and beliefs are, the campfire is not the place for it. I think for many of us, PA Magazine is our "campfire" for when we are not actually sitting around one. PA Magazine over the years has evolved into a community of a truly large group of friends. Many of us have met each other face to face at archery gatherings throughout the years. PA is the common thread between all of our own personal beliefs, opinions, occupations, situations, challenges and definitions of self. Our community stretches around the globe. For whatever reason, the subject of politics was introduced at our campfire. We now see the stir just that one occasion created. Of the thousands of pages in type over the last 25 years, one single political page spawned cancellation threats, sour thoughts and animosities.
Like at Twin Oaks, let's put it behind us and moving forward - keep it out of our campfire.
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Well said ^
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Well stated Matt, wondered where you been , missed you. ;) :)
Pappy
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Now all I can think of is the campfire tomorrow night, and those potatoes from a few weeks ago.
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Black powder and stuff? Was some kind of announcement made that the magazine is diversifying or is this speculation?
The Chubbies won the series and people are talking glass in PA??? :-\ ???
Signs and wonders...
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I've been a subscriber for close to 10 years now. I wondered about the political stuff in last months mag, but just put it behind me. I'm ok w/ the blackpowder articles, but would not be into in-line muzzle loading or fiberglass bow articles. I just renewed my subscript, but could only afford a one year subscript this time, I usually do the 3 year, but funds are tight right now. Again, flinters and even percussion blackpowder is ok, fiberglass bows, eh, I shoot one once in a while, but am not interested in reading about them. Plenty of other mags that focus on that stuff. Love PA, hope they keep their focus on primitive skills. Does seem to me that there are a lot of typos in the last issue though. Like in every article is seems. That doesn't bother me as much as thinking about FG bow articles. Just my 2 cents.
Have a gooder, dp
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Well, if the new changes are not what everyone wants to see then perhaps primitive Archer magazine will join the ranks of Instinctive Archer or maybe The Bowyers Journal... Folks, we are a niche market and magazines live by advertising and not just the subscription fees.
While taking a look into my past issue pile I saw that the early issues were pretty thin. It's a wonder the magazine has lasted this long it would seem.