Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Shooting and Hunting => Topic started by: DC on September 08, 2016, 03:02:37 pm
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I recently extended my backyard range to 18 meters(20yds) so I marked up my target like a FITA target and I've been shooting a few 300 rounds each day. I'm not terribly impressed with my shooting. After 5 days and 10 rounds my low score is 75 and high is 126, average 98. I've been shooting for two years. Can anyone compare this with their results?
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Never tried keeping score.....but I myself due to the nature of my job didn't get to shoot for months and when I picked it back up I was all over the place.
If you have the trust and time might I suggest following these steps for one week and let us know if they work for you. Stand five yards away and keep sinking arrows (not too many otherwise risk damaging good arrows) until you can pull back and release at anchor without aiming much move two steps back repeat until over the week. It feels foolish at first but it worked for me.
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I've heard of this. Do you just do this exclusively or can you do other shooting?
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for those who don't feel like googling
The target face for the 300 Round is a 5 color FITA target face. At the 20 yard distance, this target should be 40cm in diameter
(http://i.imgur.com/AQt1oID.png)
from http://www.rovingarchers.com/tournaments/monthly-tournaments/target-archery/300-rounds/
My goal is a 230 average or so.. :\ But I hit all over the target, sometimes miss, most of the time.
I think I put 3 arrows in the gold in a row once in my life.
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Use a backstop and about 3' in front hang a small object. I use a magnolia seed pod. Shoot at this small object and don't worry about the misses. I have a piece of 1" metal conduit bent to a tall "U" shape to hang the seed pod from. When you hit it it swings making it interesting to shoot at. I don't like to shoot at a target per se because there is too much to interfere with my concentration. Shooting at a small object with a neutral background helps me concentrate on that one spot. Even on a large target butt I use a very small spot to shoot at. For me at least a bulls eye target is too busy and interferes with my concentration. Plus, I've never seen a deer with a bulls eye on it's side.
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DC...That shooting real close not worrying what you hit is for your form and anchor memory of your body and mind or a certain place you touch on your face before letting loose if snap shooting.To get yourself used to that.To be consistent in form and anchor.Then worry about shooting farther away.
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I've heard it works even better if you wear a blindfolded for that first 5yd start point. Until you get a comfortable form aiming is a distraction.
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OK, that's 75 arrows from 5 yds. Am I an archer yet ;D
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If you can make the bow launch the arrow you're an archer. Becoming a skilled archer on the other hand has a bit more effort involved. ;)
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I've heard of this. Do you just do this exclusively or can you do other shooting?
All kinds I just do this if I'm feeling Rusty. It's not the number of arrows at 5 yards but the quality of the shot once you hit it center most of the time step back for a bit everyday start over until you can move back sooner
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I am too used to a compound where if I hit at 20 then I can move on to thirty and forty no problem, slowly moving back makes much more sense
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In the historical society I'm in we shoot whats called a Royal Round, it goes like this:
6 arrows (no time limit) at 40 yards,
6 arrows (no time limit) at 30 yards,
6 arrows (no time limit) at 20 yards, and
timed round (30 sec.) at the 20 yard target with unlimited arrows
The target is a 60 cm FITA, five color face.
Scoring:
Gold=5, Red=4, Blue=3, Black=2, White=1.
I currently have a score of 33 but I haven't shot a RR in a while and I've gotten better, lol.
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I did a bunch of surfing for Royal Round and couldn't really find a top score but it looks like 100 or better is really good. Is that right? I can't do multiple distances in my yard, 20 yds is about it.
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I've heard of this. Do you just do this exclusively or can you do other shooting?
All kinds I just do this if I'm feeling Rusty. It's not the number of arrows at 5 yards but the quality of the shot once you hit it center most of the time step back for a bit everyday start over until you can move back sooner
Ah, so you're not doing the blind bale thing. You are aiming at something. I will endeavour to persevere. :D
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I did a bunch of surfing for Royal Round and couldn't really find a top score but it looks like 100 or better is really good. Is that right? I can't do multiple distances in my yard, 20 yds is about it.
Correct, the top two archers in my kingdom have 101 and 107.
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Well Swamp I was getting a little disillusioned with your method. Since I was used to 20yds and moved up to 5 all my shots were about 6" high, as I expected. I started to think that this was going nowhere cause I'd be spending all my time readjusting for range each time I moved back. So I thought I would just shoot my 300 for the day. It's looking like rain anyway. I shot 141, my best by 15 points. And that's with my usual one stray in each group of 3. If I could control that "one" I'd be a happy man. So I think there is something to your system. I just need a sandbank or something larger to shoot at, I'm tearing the he!! out of my target face.
Thanks
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It does work gotten me up to 80 yard shots.
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How goes it?
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It helps. I finally got a backdrop I can shoot at. I had a piece of fake black velvet about 6'x6' I used as a backdrop for taking pictures of my bonsai trees. It's a light stretchy fabric, a little lighter than stretchy denim. I stand about 5yds from it. I grabbed some random shafts and put pencil erasers on them. If I hit the cloth about 2' from the bottom it catches the arrow nicely and just drops it on the ground. I've used it a couple hundred times and it shows no sign of wear. I think the stretchy helps. My shooting improves when I do this but I drop right back to square one if I miss a day or so. Like the last week when it rained the whole time. When I used the backdrop my scores went up to 140 one day but then it rained for a few days and I shot 71, my lowest ever. Just to old to start something I guess. I videoed myself and other than dropping my arrow hand I can't see anything obvious. I put the vid on slow speed and the arrow has long gone by the time I drop my hand. It does sort of look like both my arms are waving around a bit and that would account for the inconsistancy but I have no idea how to fix that. A time machine, maybe ;D
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We used to have a public indoor range in town and would meet up on Tuesday and Thursday nights to shoot spots.
We did this a LOT so I got pretty good at it snap shooting instinctively. I averaged around 250 and shot a high of 278 a few times.
Bear in mind I wasn't shooting a selfbow at that time and was shooting a Bighorn recurve with aluminum arrows. I suspect my scores would drop about 30 points if I was shooting a selfbow and wood arrows.
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I need a consistent draw length (shoot the moment I feel the arrowhead..? like a clicker) and to not drop the shoulder, arm or jerk on release (harder with my bows that are all too heavy)
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Yeah, wish I didn't live in a tiny apartment so I could set up a block or something at close range to practice my form regularly, my work schedule and the Florida weather prevent me from getting to the range but maybe once a week.
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I went to the range last night. It was beginners night so I asked one of the instructors to watch me and see what he could see. Wouldn't you know, I shot the best I've shot for a long time. I was shooting groups!! Not tight groups but definable groups just the same. He said,"You're doing fine, I don't know what you're complaining about." Crap! Maybe I'll try again whith another instructor.
Urufu I really think my hanging cloth would work in an apartment. It catches the arrows well. You need about 4-5" behind it and enough room to shoot in front of it. It may be a tiny bit risky, how good are you with drywall repairs ;D ;D ;D
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Shooting from 2-5 meters away helps. I use a box with carpet on it, I think paper shavings and maybe plywood as a backstop would work well
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Space is only partially the issue, the two rambunctious boys, the brother-in-law and the wife are the real issues, I'd have to yell FORE! before every shot, lol.