Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: sleek on June 26, 2016, 07:40:32 am
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Who else thinks of stuff like this? For example, hot sauce in water guns for a mace, or pellets fired from a cap gun. Tennis balls soaked in gas fired from a potato cannon, arrow shafts packed with black powder and bbs and a primer on the tip. ( ok arrows are already weapons but still had to mention it. ) What other ideas have you folks ever thought of?
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When I was much younger and more adventurous I would fill a beach ball with a mixture of acetylene and oxygen, at the proper mix of course, tape a fuse to the inlet and light it. Quite the visual effects when set off just before dark. The bigger the ball the more bang for your bucks. Not a weapon but loads of fun, the cows would run for the hills.
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Oh lord, now you are on someone's watch list!
I would not have posted on this, but I know I am already on at least three. >:D
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A handful of sharpened jacks makes life miserable for anyone that might be following you will ill intent, be it by foot or by car.
I saw a youtube video where someone took these spinning ball/ top type toys and replaced the plastic blades with real razors. They easily shredded right through soda cans in the video.
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A handful of sharpened jacks makes life miserable for anyone that might be following you will ill intent, be it by foot or by car.
I saw a youtube video where someone took these spinning ball/ top type toys and replaced the plastic blades with real razors. They easily shredded right through soda cans in the video.
Screw that, unmodified Legos can cripple!
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When I was much younger and more adventurous I would fill a beach ball with a mixture of acetylene and oxygen, at the proper mix of course, tape a fuse to the inlet and light it. Quite the visual effects when set off just before dark. The bigger the ball the more bang for your bucks. Not a weapon but loads of fun, the cows would run for the hills.
Marc, we would buy Helium balloons from the store and then fill another balloon with Oxy/Acyt and tie them together. But, we taped a long piece of waterproof cannon fuse to the O/A balloon. Now that woke up everybody in town when it went off a few hundred feet in the air late at night.
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We use to cut the end out of a 410 shell push a aluminum arrow in the shell load it up in the ole 410 single shot and shoot them out. That was a lot of fun
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Did you leave the shot in or dump it?
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Did you leave the shot in or dump it?
Dump the shot out. Sorry forgot to mention that. Leave the fletchings on.
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Oh lord, now you are on someone's watch list!
I would not have posted on this, but I know I am already on at least three. >:D
Im a veteran. We are all on a watch list.
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That would have woken up someone Eddie
My niece's inflatable bunny that stood 3 feet tall made an impressive sound with a good visual display as well
I like that .410 idea
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I know from personal experience that Jack Daniels in a super soaker is a bad idea. First, While getting a shot from a friend, if they get it in your eyes it burns, and second, when it gets hot the whiskey expands and makes the pressurized tank go boom. And then you've wasted your whiskey. :(
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I like the .410 idea ;D
I rung a 12 ga. one day when we kids and got back
to the cabin after hunting in the wet snow.
Tony was taking his boots off his frozen feet sitting on the fireplace
hearth about 30 feet away.
I drew down on him and said, "Here's for sticking the knife in my foot".
(Mumbly Peg) the night before. I aimed into the fire place and squeezed the trigger. Everyone freaked and Tony went rolling around the floor screaming
in pain. I thought I must have left some pellets in the shell and they ricocheted ?
It was the wad that hit him in his frozen foot. >:D
We stayed friends. Good thing, he could kick my butt.
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Zuma that is too funny. Was he mad at all? Glad you all stayed friends!
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First off, probably not the best idea to share these ideas on an open forum that will be viewed by teenagers with more cajones than common sense. But since the ideas have already been planted, I'll share a couple safety advisories on a couple that I read so far. On the charged arrow than sleek mentioned, our method was to dump the shot out of a shotshell, slide the shell onto the end of the arrow and tape in place. We then rigged it to make sure the primer fired upon impact (withholding the details) they worked great lobbing them down the street in an indirect fire manner. The problem came with direct fire( straight into a cinder block wall) the arrow was blown back at us and imbedded in the siding of the house less than a foot from my head. NOT A GOOD IDEA!!!
Next is the .410 /arrow bit. When I was growing up this was a pretty common trick used on the last day of archery season when the freezer was still empty. Not that i would do/did such things. It is absolutely imperative that the arrow be in contact with the wad before firing! If there was a gap between the arrow and wad, when the wad struck the arrow it creates an instantaneous overpressure. One of my mechanics is still sporting the scars from an exploding breech when he failed to note that the short arrow with broadhead was six inches shorter than the barrel. Nearly killed him. Again...NOT A GOOD IDEA!!! Josh
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There are so many "not a good ideas" floating around this crowd. Remember that thread years back about doing dumb stuff? It had stories of mason jars of gasoline thrown into bonfires, flaming couches, and the like. Yeah. Half the time I am amazed at the stuff you guys build and half the time I wonder how the heck any of you are still alive.
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There are so many "not a good ideas" floating around this crowd. Remember that thread years back about doing dumb stuff? It had stories of mason jars of gasoline thrown into bonfires, flaming couches, and the like. Yeah. Half the time I am amazed at the stuff you guys build and half the time I wonder how the heck any of you are still alive.
I agree.
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I own a t-shirt to that club....
No details forthcoming.. ::)
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There are so many "not a good ideas" floating around this crowd. Remember that thread years back about doing dumb stuff? It had stories of mason jars of gasoline thrown into bonfires, flaming couches, and the like. Yeah. Half the time I am amazed at the stuff you guys build and half the time I wonder how the heck any of you are still alive.
No Homeland Security in those days, JW. :)
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My one and only attempt at making a sparkler bomb didn't turn out so good. I was seconds away from dialing 911.
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Screw that, unmodified Legos can cripple!
yep, and the clear ones blend in to the carpeted surroundings with a Predator-like stealth camouflage.
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I started reloading my own amo a long time ago, started out loading shotgun shells. One day when I was in my early 20's I had the bright idea of making a canon. My brother worked in a machine shop so I asked him to make the barrel. He found a short piece of high pressure steam pipe with a 1 1/2" bore with maybe 3/4" thick walls and about 2" long and welded a plug at one end. I devised an ignition system from a remote fuse igniter and a shotgun primer and mounted everything on a board. I then made a round ball mould out of plaster and cut some card wads and t was ready to test, by this time it was the middle of Winter. My brothers and I hauled that thing out into the bush and I proceeded to load it up. Never having loaded anything this large before I was going by what I thought was a suitable amount of Win 540 followed by several card wads then the ball and a few more card wads. We then lined it up on a rather large Poplar tree and I inserted the primer, tied a long string on the firing pin and went and hid behind a dead fall. A solid pull of the string produced a loud boom and the tree shook. When we had a look though there was hardly anything left of the canon. I didn't know enough about reloading at the time and the powder I had used was too fast burning and way too much of it. It took us awhile to dig the ball out of the tree, it had gone half way through
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I wanted a Mortar. I couldn't get my buddy at the machine shop to turn me one out of solid steel bar, though. Also growing up I had a friend whose brother brought home some, pineapple looking things when he came back from Vietnam. Well, we found them and messed up some orange trees way back in the grove.
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Has anyone thought of getting some cheaper drones, tying model rockets on them as missiles and dog fighting?
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Zuma that is too funny. Was he mad at all? Glad you all stayed friends!
First off he was. Tony was a lineman and a big boy but he couldn't
catch me running around outside in the snow bare footed.
I was an end and still had my boots on>:D
Last time I saw him was at my bon voyage to SEA :'(
Zuma
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Has anyone thought of getting some cheaper drones, tying model rockets on them as missiles and dog fighting?
Seeing that you need a license to operate a drone in Utah, and some rocket engines require a license as well, nope.
Oh, I'll add that jacks were off limits in my house growing up. Mini Caltrops. Legos were banished to my bedroom, with hardwood floors.
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I used to work at an office where we all kept Nerf guns, when things got slow out came the foam flinging firearms, lol. The office was really one of those steel building structures and had the huge industrial lights up in the rafters, well someone accidentally let go of a helium birthday balloon and it lodged right next to one of those extremely hot lights. The boss started to get worried it was going to catch fire but didn't know what to do as it was as high as a gymnasium ceiling and there was no ladder tall enough to retrieve it. So I took out my trusty modified Nerf gun, taped a thumb tack to the dart and solved the problem with prejudice, lol. Boss came over, said thanks, then said to take the thumb tack off the dart and we'd all pretend we never saw that lest the HR department hear of it, lol.
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We took a 50' rope, rigged it up to a "lasso" on the end of a pool stick, and drove all over southern IL back roads one night. I was driving and only after we barely missed getting it over the neck of a small doe did I ask my cousin what he had the OTHer end of the rope tied to.. His waist.
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Lol, reminds me of that story that went around for a while about the guy trying to capture a deer. If you haven't seen that search for it, great read, lol.
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Has anyone thought of getting some cheaper drones, tying model rockets on them as missiles and dog fighting?
My other hobby is model airplane building and flying and adding rockets to them is a big no-no --- but I have daydreamed many times. what I really want to do is build a paintball gun into the nose of an A-10 Warthog. That would be beyond cool.
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I would like to say this is the best thread on the PA!!!I get a big kick out of all the things we've done in the past and thinking who will try one of the many stories on here. Keep them coming!
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Ever try drinking a few 12oz's and running a boat beside a 6' gator and think it was cool to jump out and wrap your arms and legs around it? Well if you do, it's not. Try to figure out how to let go after you say, "Watch This". 8)
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Ever try drinking a few 12oz's and running a boat beside a 6' gator and think it was cool to jump out and wrap your arms and legs around it? Well if you do, it's not. Try to figure out how to let go after you say, "Watch This". 8)
As I hear it, the story still runs around the town where I grew up about my father and his buddies running coyotes between snowmobiles and whoppin' 'em with a baseball bat. Apparently one night, my father was on the left side of a yote and his buddy Don was on the right, but could not seem to connect, a batting slump as it were. My father bailed off his Scorpion 440 SuperStinger and bulldogged the song doggie!
HE claims he hit a rock or something and fell onto it accidently. My father is not prone to exaggeration or dramatization, but I am not gonna give him this one.
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Has anyone thought of getting some cheaper drones, tying model rockets on them as missiles and dog fighting?
My other hobby is model airplane building and flying and adding rockets to them is a big no-no --- but I have daydreamed many times. what I really want to do is build a paintball gun into the nose of an A-10 Warthog. That would be beyond cool.
Anything to do with the A-10 is beyond cool!
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I think most of us at some point has at least contemplated if not attempted attaching bottle rockets to those styrofoam gliders. It doesn't work BTW, lol.
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check out the slingshot channel
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Bottle rocket Wars... Conduit as your gun. Pretty funny when you get busted by your parents
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I think most of us at some point has at least contemplated if not attempted attaching bottle rockets to those styrofoam gliders. It doesn't work BTW, lol.
No it does not. But an arrow duct tapped to an estes model rocket engine works great. Also tje gan out of a hair dryer with the rocket engine in the middle makes an awesome spinning toy as it goes up.
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I went to a junior college in Jansen Beach Fla in 1969-71. Just before Christmas break one year, after most of the students had left for the holidays a few of us had a bottle rocket war. One team at one end of the dorm hall, the other team at the other end. With all the lights out we would exchange shots down the dark hall to our opponents. It was pretty interesting. :-\
At the same school, the night of the Draft Lottery we were all huddled in front of the TV in the TV room which had accordion style sliding doors. Some smart butt decided to throw a few lit bottle rockets into the room and hold the doors closed. Another exciting moment. On a side note...the lottery numbers were not in my favor. I drew #88
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And which branch did you enlist in?
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I was never in the military. They wouldn't have wanted me anyway.
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Mine was #13 :(
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In the mid 70's saltpeter was readily available so I decided one day to make some Black powder. Mixed the ingredients in the right proportions. Tried it in some of the rifles I had and it worked quite well. Then I made some small rockets. Very little control but man did those things go
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We got into the lab when I was in High School and got a bottle of Iodine Crystals. Have you ever seen what happens when you mix the crystals 50/50 with ammonia? It turns into a very unstable contact explosive. We painted the bottom of a toilet seat at the local drive in theater one Saturday night and hung around to see who would be lucky enough to sit on it once it dried. About an hour later there was a small boom and a bunch of purple smoke rolling out. Didn't hurt anybody more then burning the hair off his butt and staining his backside purple.
Always amusing to throw it down wet in front of the Bar door on a busy night and watch everybody track it all through the place. As it dried and people would step on it it would go off like the old black powder crackers you could buy.
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Pat & Eddy - Mine was 311. Man, I remember being glued to the radio during the "Lottery" ! Bob
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My buddy and I took a Big Bertha model rocket and put wheels from a toy car on it. We took the 4th fin off the rocket so it would sit flat on the ground. We'd rob a fuse from a firecracker to ignite the rocket engines rather than the electrical fuses that you had to buy batteries for. Our measurements weren't as precise as 12-year-olds, so the wheels weren't as square to the rocket as they shoulda been. We also didn't estimate well enough the distance it would go horizontally. The "Blue Flame" had a somewhat erratic launch but stabilized and caught a bit of air.
Lessons learned...We probably shouldn't have launched in the apartment complex we lived in.
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Not a personal story but one an older friend would tell occasionally. He used to make model rocket engines out of the old Ohio Blue Tip strike anywhere matches, break off all the match heads and use a cardboard tube and very very very carefully use a dowel to crush the match heads into the tube and pack the powder down tight and then use a fuse to light it. Said they would go as high as any of the model rocket engines you could buy but says looking back on it he's shocked he never blew himself up doing that, lol.
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I was cooking up some powder to make some home made bamboo roman candles. They are lots of fun. Well I thought I got it just a little too hot so I turned to get some water and just as soon as my face was clear of the pan on the hot plate it all went up. I only cooked a small amount at a time but still that flame scoreched my garage ceiling. I almost lost my good looks that day.
Bamboo roman candles.... I cant recall the perfect mix ratio but I know 50/50 works by volume just not well.
Get stump remover. Check the ingredients. It should be 99% potassium nitrate. Grind it in a morter and pestel. Poor in a container and do the same with regular household sugar. The finer the better. Then mix a small quantity in a non stick cooking pan and add water until its like mud. Powderize some charcoal and add until the mix has a dark grey color. ( I had experimented until I had proper ratios but its been years. )
Get a clear plastic face shield. WEAR IT!
Turn the hot plate on and heat it up and stir until the mix melts. It will have the consistency of melted plastic or drop biscuit dough.Thats when all the water is gone. Remove the pan from the plate and let cool until you can handle the still hot mix. Roll small balls of it in your palm. These will be the flame balls. Make them the diameter you want. Roll them until they are cool enough to not dent when set down. They will get rock hard when completely cool. Make as many as you like and store in a sealed container away from humidity, they suck water out the air.
Make a nother dry powder mix but dont add water, just mix with a stick. Light small quantities AWAY from everything else. Adjust the mixture until you have a good fast burn. Use this mix in your bamboo as the propellant.
Get a stick of bamboo with nodes far apart as you want the candle to be long. Cut so only one node is present and make it the bottom. Dont make the node flush with the cut. Leave enough stal at the bottom cut at an angle you can jam it in the ground to hold itself. Loosely tap about half an inch of powder in the bamboo. If you pack tight the burn slows too much. The drop one of the hard balls down and be ssure it hits the powder. The should be a loos fit but a close one. Then pack about an 1/8 inch on top of that firmer but dont over doo it or you will compress the loose powder under the ball, this gives a slower burn to allow some time between ballshots.
On top of the packed powder angain pour anbout a half inch, maybe a bit more ( play with single ball cannons until you get a good launch, the diameter will make differences. ) Drop another ball. Repeat until about two inches from the top. Get cannon fuse, and insert on top of the last ball. Pack powder around it tightly. A hot " glue " ball thats still plastic makes a nice cap when molded tightly over it all leaving the long fuse sticking out. Seal with wax to stop moisure. Insert in the ground, ligh fuse and run like heck!
They work well and I havent blown one up yet...... but perhaps I will try. Another thing to try is go to Wal-Mart camping section. Get the stuff you throw in camp fires to change the colours of your camp flame. Incorporate that into your ball mix to add colour.
I had some powder mix left over and didnt know what to do. I made a bamboo cracker.. Loosly packed powder in a cut arrow shaft with a node at the top. Fuse it and cap with a meted ball. Make around three inches long. They bang decent. I poured the rest into an old coconut i drank the water out of long ago and inserted a fuse. THAT WAS INTERESTING!
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Great Sleek, now we're all on a list...lol
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Great Sleek, now we're all on a list...lol
Slowly Pushes keyboard away, backs up and runs out the door. >:D
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They're making drones really small now, and quiet :D :D
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When I was building my house I had a large rock that was in the way. Back then you could buy dynamite fairly easily so I went and got a few sticks. After I has taken care of the rock I still had a stick left over. There was a big pile of rocks about 70 yards from where I was building so I took a 1/4 stick and set it down on the ground and then put a large flat rock that probably weighed around 100 lbs on top of the dynamite, aiming it away from my building site. I lit the fuse and ran. Behind my house there is a large swampy area that is about 200 yards across. The rock took off went up about 100' and cleared the swamp
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When I was building my house we had to blow a few stumps. We stuffed some dynamite under one and I filled the hole with a rock about the size of a loaf of bread. Next day I got a call from the people that live about two hundred yards in front of me. There in their kitchen was a familiar looking rock. There was a hole in the tar and gravel roof and a hole in the ceiling almost directly under it. Cost me $1500(1977) to fix. I feel very lucky that there was no one home at the time and that there was no low flying aircraft in the area.
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I am now beginning to see how we all wound up here at PA :)
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...yeah, the ones that survived! ;)
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Ha! I have done some crazy stuff for the enjoyment of a rush, entertainment, being able to tell the tale, obedience even(try living as the only American at an orphanage in India for half a year with radical Hindus everywhere lol), but DYNamite!!!!??! You guys are really crazy, explosions were never my cup of tea; I would be more likely next to mullet with a beer and a gator than even the fireworks madness
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I gob $20 on whoever cat get a stick of lit tnt down the gators mouth. I will throw in a nice character stave if you can get into the boat before it goes off.
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Great Sleek, now we're all on a list...lol
Slowly Pushes keyboard away, backs up and runs out the door. >:D
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Im dyin over here.... haha....
Honestly, governments arent ment to be trusted. Thats why there are militias and the entire bill of rights.
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Ha! I have done some crazy stuff for the enjoyment of a rush, entertainment, being able to tell the tale, obedience even(try living as the only American at an orphanage in India for half a year with radical Hindus everywhere lol), but DYNamite!!!!??! You guys are really crazy, explosions were never my cup of tea; I would be more likely next to mullet with a beer and a gator than even the fireworks madness
Don't count me out. I loaded Blast holes for a living for a while. I loved playing with Det Cord and 80% nitro. :)
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Aaaand Mullet is voted MOST likely to blow a gator up with a stick of tnt after wrestling it in the water.....
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We got into the lab when I was in High School and got a bottle of Iodine Crystals. Have you ever seen what happens when you mix the crystals 50/50 with ammonia? It turns into a very unstable contact explosive. We painted the bottom of a toilet seat at the local drive in theater one Saturday night and hung around to see who would be lucky enough to sit on it once it dried. About an hour later there was a small boom and a bunch of purple smoke rolling out. Didn't hurt anybody more then burning the hair off his butt and staining his backside purple.
Always amusing to throw it down wet in front of the Bar door on a busy night and watch everybody track it all through the place. As it dried and people would step on it it would go off like the old black powder crackers you could buy.
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Dry ice, 16 oz water bottle, a little water....bang. :)
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I remember in high school someone stole a vial of potassium from the lab, it was a big deal even then but nothing like today, if that had happened now the whole school would be on lockdown while homeland security and ATF waterboarded the lot of us, lol.
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My karate instructor was the biology/physics teacher, I had a key. ;D 8)
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Man dies when homemade cannon explodes - wilx.com
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Zuma
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When I was 12 or so I tried making a rocket from homemade black powder and a couple of feet of 1/2" copper pipe. I leaned it up against a saw horse, lit the fuse and backed up about ten feet. It smoked and fumed for a few seconds and then stopped. My home made gun powder had blocked the exit. I just had time to realize what was happening and it blew up. My rocket became a pipe bomb. The smoke cleared and I checked myself for wounds, fortunately there was none but there was enough shrapnel in the side of the house to make me realize that maybe this wasn't such a good idea. We found the top half of the pipe a hundred feet or so down the street.