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Main Discussion Area => Flintknapping => Topic started by: Knotty on June 03, 2016, 12:25:44 pm

Title: First Glass Point
Post by: Knotty on June 03, 2016, 12:25:44 pm

Hey fellow Archers and Knappers ,

This was harder than I imagined,
I started off with a project in mind, and the point broke 3 times 😐

Soo it became ALOT smaller than I imagined, but keep in mind I don't own any knapping tools ( 😢  )
So it's alot more difficult to do with what I got here: Screwdrivers, forks, and whatever comes to hand.

I'd appreciate any feedback 😄

http://prntscr.com/bbxep1
Http://prntscr.com/bbxgz4

Title: Re: First Glass Point
Post by: Parnell on June 03, 2016, 01:23:58 pm

Congratulations on your point!

Title: Re: First Glass Point
Post by: Knotty on June 03, 2016, 01:27:43 pm

Thanks @Parnell , I probably won't be using this one because it's too small, but it's a good learning medium so that I don't mess up the good stuff 😊

Title: Re: First Glass Point
Post by: bronco611 on June 04, 2016, 08:42:23 am

Make yourself some told pressure flaker, bopper etc easy to do and will help with making points. Keep chipping and the will get larger and sharper.

Title: Re: First Glass Point
Post by: crooketarrow on June 04, 2016, 09:37:51 pm

  YOU CAN GET ANTLER TIPS ANYWHERE.

Also you can grind mosty any bone to a point. I like deer leg bones. cut a end off good leath. They sharpen down to a super hard point. Much harder than antler,so it lasts longer+.

  Go to any electic store,lowes where ever and buy some copper ground wire, or nails get a couple sizes if you can. Cut a broom hand 8,10 inchs. Drill a hole same size as your wire. Put it in I don't glue mine. the copper where's out really quick. So you'll have to replace it. 

SHAPEN TO A POINT. LEAVE A INCH OF COPPER WIRE OR NAIL STICK OUT. MAKE YOU    A COUPLE LEATHS.

  HAVE FUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

Title: Re: First Glass Point
Post by: Knotty on June 04, 2016, 09:40:18 pm

Thanks for the comment @crooketarrow ,
Unfortunately here in Brazil we can't find deer parts at all,
But im sure i can find cow bones to grind into shape,

Talking about copper tips etc, le0n has kindly offered to send me a few 😊

Title: Re: First Glass Point
Post by: le0n on June 05, 2016, 09:22:20 pm

^^ just finished these:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/gbK3Jo12CCwH5J3F5Sl49OUVGwgTkxIYmoMZH18EDXUtAa5BuBWgpuGwFBJeJc8g3B7srkDn_-VT_ECWY3kQqAQz7sKvY7c8fJODpL25oeP5LCGdxTSPXTx3OS7Bkw7WD6BNmLVaWAClzMAkm-J4sktJEfMua90ZDcwdRvTv04n9lp0RNMN2Vmg4dtW2tt9LfmI1MiEKKsjeS7sBcOl0upeyXVywC4EW8vzkFp47ybl4MvkbiDXPoMCGAfBe041RBWl08aVCX3BQw0kYZu1S7ns6cZqj0-v8nwGAhDQ-9gDERCq49jnmN1skqoJC7i8biLRl7R0Gysi5lOCcs5Z2aeEPYHd7VPkZw89muQYdrJHY6dwtxTmck65_RNuP-0DYzQ5vMnYo_855xvWCzzB59-y7K0vnxrAz4HZI-5WpDD-jdwKkDTeS5DSyd2FyH5-IQx5mqFwobL0-EF0PDGbI_JrW3RnAWxOwY8N_sE8rpOBd0-eiWB9K_slkO5Z5k6CsLHrnk-dQqqANg18WxLdenupC0YzZcYk_Pvf8QCudfUFE3Qd_uPtX8kCJZk_W-p_O0tVgD2VKGgC4iFOKAvwIsFmfu9oIjo0=w600)

the flat screwdriver one is for notching:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/2iOiqA7s5MjNZPK1pGZ0eS_6zoAqdR97_2HGZf1EKZPo1W0YixFPX8VubdktwspiHoPMSWuKn_lUko_TJrOPqAOzPb2NXqh9bq_py8NyQi3ta_5iPHzV6wPMF9Rlq0LBAn8HLSsO-dhcqsrgf_u1ru4aFqG5LuCFIR5JnCk9RxrSP8UHxCrkiIIYKsKrBx9EUBPyETo_gOd3VfOHyOEviuGxnavgXDL_IHhlVCXdtN-wIa9O_gVU9zzIgS3_rhSqIfx4i41_8e8RMDgfvqAzVLqFe_QSM605owEIuvHubPSfm_r0olGK3H5ZawgARHXQ4--3jKTUgn08IwOhtIltpk_SxJ1qanKkLGuzdh0E8RoVnvodu6zwVGSLG1oCY6_LsAzAfQSOOXwjrF4tO1zXMHVIrwVfuDVw77hOeRctII82Ix3LHc0LbAfWf_Bk7De8W7Se7uhlD38mK-lrB-urblCK504haeaRyp-3xZWwRD5bPEWlQj9iFFFQSLH42znuf7CN3C-kN0ENBNLl23sFWgwyGA9Pt9J8OiyiFgM5McHVkRIoSqxSKyJMm2qI7wylgc8CnfABHczSrOHBVdjajO8yBLlFooA=w600)

these pieces of annealed copper wire were hammered into shape and i then cleaned them a little with a file. i suggest gently reshaping with a hammer for the longest lifetime. a small hammer with a small anvil is the idea setup, but i just use two hammers and i use one as the anvil.

Title: Re: First Glass Point
Post by: Knotty on June 06, 2016, 10:56:27 am

Awesome , they look great! Thanks for your hard work 😊

I'm very excited to receive them soon! (I hope!)

Have a good day , and if there's anything I can do , just pm me!

Title: Re: First Glass Point
Post by: le0n on June 06, 2016, 01:52:42 pm

Quote from: Knotty on June 06, 2016, 10:56:27 am

Have a good day , and if there's anything I can do...

you can load them into a good handle and try to wear them out for me ;)

and in the interim, keep posting your progress.

Title: Re: First Glass Point
Post by: mullet on June 06, 2016, 04:35:56 pm

And let me know if you find any rock worth a darn where you live, I sure couldn't.

Title: Re: First Glass Point
Post by: Knotty on June 06, 2016, 06:21:23 pm

Sure will le0n , with alot of happiness too!

And @mullet , I'll do a research here, and I'll let you know!

Title: Re: First Glass Point
Post by: Knapper on June 07, 2016, 10:22:52 am

Knotty, way to go. theres nothing wrong with that at all.
Knapper

Title: Re: First Glass Point
Post by: le0n on June 07, 2016, 02:45:29 pm

i just dropped them in the mail box 8)

Title: Re: First Glass Point
Post by: Knotty on June 07, 2016, 02:54:30 pm

Le0n , stop making me get heart attacks!
I'm excited 😊

Thanks for the comment @Knapper , appreciate it!

Title: Re: First Glass Point
Post by: Dakota Kid on June 11, 2016, 12:20:26 am

Your future quest for knapping rocks had me curious so I looked into it a bit. If your in the eastern part of Brazil you'll have more luck. Looks like most artifacts down there were made of quartz, chert, agate, quartzite, rhyolite, and opal. Good luck, let us know how you make out.

Title: Re: First Glass Point
Post by: Dakota Kid on June 11, 2016, 12:27:13 am

Oh I also know of a very dense wood that originates from South America. If you can find a block of Itin/Caranda wood, it may be good for making percussion tools.

Title: Re: First Glass Point
Post by: Knotty on June 11, 2016, 04:25:34 pm

Hey @Dakota Kid !
I live Minas Gerais (South-East) , and its true, even though those rocks are easy to find, they are also extremely expensive , and since I'm still a starter I wouldn't like to end up ruining some opal for example!
Thanks For Your reply 😉

Title: Re: First Glass Point
Post by: mullet on June 11, 2016, 05:06:19 pm

Your copper came to me today. I'll box them up with what I have and try to get them in the mail next week. It might be tough since I have to work out of town all next week.

And, when I was in Patrocinio I saw two deer and a cool looking snake, looked like a cross between a rattlesnake and a water moccasin. They told me it was a viper.

Title: Re: First Glass Point
Post by: Dakota Kid on June 12, 2016, 08:55:18 am

Hopefully you won't have to resort to buying rocks. Just find a river or a lake and start looking, or anywhere roads or train tracks cut into a mountain. I live in an area notorious for having poor knapping rock(unless you like rhyolite).  I do still manage to find enough to keep me busy.  I'm having a hard time selling my wife on the idea of buying boxes of rocks for me to break, so for now it's local stuff. 

Title: Re: First Glass Point
Post by: Knotty on June 12, 2016, 02:28:36 pm

@mullet , Great Eddy!
You can send the stuff whenever you'd like, don't worry about timing 👍
Deers are actually quite rare to see around Here, I'm surprised !
While snakes , mostly vipers , aren't Too hard to find.

@Dakota Kid, well where I live there are no lakes or rivers, however , next week or so, I'll go hunting in a place that has rivers and waterfalls, I'll stay there for about 4-5 days, I'll probably go searching for some rocks aswell!

Title: Re: First Glass Point
Post by: crooketarrow on June 12, 2016, 09:56:16 pm

  Finding your own rock is like cutting your own stave's. It only means something that you and only you will enjoy and understand.

  I can't remember my first point I'm sure it wasn't as good as yours.

Title: Re: First Glass Point
Post by: Knotty on June 13, 2016, 09:50:26 am

@crooketarrow , I guess I'll only understand it when I get the rock myself 😊
Appreciate the feedback 😉