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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: TheDeltaFactor on March 07, 2016, 08:22:53 pm

Title: If backing with rawhide, how bad can a hickory board be?
Post by: TheDeltaFactor on March 07, 2016, 08:22:53 pm
I have some nice rawhide but no board. I've looked through dozens if not hundreds of hickory boards and haven't seen one that I would make a self bow from. What kind of 'problem' hickory boards would still make a good shooter if backed with rawhide?
Title: Re: If backing with rawhide, how bad can a hickory board be?
Post by: sleek on March 07, 2016, 11:44:25 pm
Dont forget to check tje ax and sledge handle section too for good grain hickory. Ypu can splice or make a takedown with them with great results. Often they are high quality over boards.
Title: Re: If backing with rawhide, how bad can a hickory board be?
Post by: bubby on March 08, 2016, 12:17:12 am
Rawhide doesn't make up for bad grain you still need to get the best board you can
Title: Re: If backing with rawhide, how bad can a hickory board be?
Post by: Weylin on March 08, 2016, 12:27:45 am
Rawhide doesn't make up for bad grain you still need to get the best board you can

What bubby said
Title: Re: If backing with rawhide, how bad can a hickory board be?
Post by: Limbit on March 08, 2016, 12:54:15 am
I had a really crap piece of yew I didn't want to waste, so I rawhide backed it. The bow split on the tiller tree, but the rawhide held it together and kept it from blowing up. Point being: rawhide want fix a problem, but it will lessen the impact.
Title: Re: If backing with rawhide, how bad can a hickory board be?
Post by: sleek on March 08, 2016, 07:46:35 am
Bamboo can fix the problem though. Give that a try?
Title: Re: If backing with rawhide, how bad can a hickory board be?
Post by: Lumberman on March 08, 2016, 07:48:03 am
Where abouts in the country are ya? I've got quite a few excellent grained hickory boards from last week
Title: Re: If backing with rawhide, how bad can a hickory board be?
Post by: George Tsoukalas on March 08, 2016, 08:28:47 am
With any board, I allow 2 run outs per limb as a maximum for 45-55#. That's for selfbows.  Also, any boards with knots are rejected.
More on my site.

http://traditionalarchery101.com/

Jawge
Title: Re: If backing with rawhide, how bad can a hickory board be?
Post by: TheDeltaFactor on March 08, 2016, 11:54:52 am
Where abouts in the country are ya? I've got quite a few excellent grained hickory boards from last week
I'm in southeast Michigan. I think every stack of lumber within 50 miles has already been picked through by bowyers! :-)
Title: Re: If backing with rawhide, how bad can a hickory board be?
Post by: TheDeltaFactor on March 08, 2016, 11:58:45 am
With any board, I allow 2 run outs per limb as a maximum for 45-55#. That's for selfbows.  Also, any boards with knots are rejected.
More on my site.

http://traditionalarchery101.com/

Jawge
Great information, and nice site, thank you! I'll just be patient and keep my eye out for a board at least as good as you described.
Title: Re: If backing with rawhide, how bad can a hickory board be?
Post by: TheDeltaFactor on March 08, 2016, 12:02:17 pm
Dont forget to check tje ax and sledge handle section too for good grain hickory. Ypu can splice or make a takedown with them with great results. Often they are high quality over boards.
I never would have thought of that, that's a great idea. Now that I'm thinking about it, are axe/sledge handles wide enough? Maybe you wouldn't make a wide flat bow with them...
Title: Re: If backing with rawhide, how bad can a hickory board be?
Post by: sleek on March 08, 2016, 12:07:39 pm
I have made several bows of them un backed and they do fine 40#@25. If I did a take down instead of a splice I could pull them further because splices use more available limb length than take down sleeves or bolt on risers.
Title: Re: If backing with rawhide, how bad can a hickory board be?
Post by: TheDeltaFactor on March 08, 2016, 12:18:38 pm
I have made several bows of them un backed and they do fine 40#@25. If I did a take down instead of a splice I could pull them further because splices use more available limb length than take down sleeves or bolt on risers.
Well, it's not the type of bow I first had in mind, but I like it. I'm going to start checking the axe handles as well as boards when I'm searching. Who knows, I might find something there first.
Title: Re: If backing with rawhide, how bad can a hickory board be?
Post by: Lumberman on March 08, 2016, 02:36:59 pm
Bummer, well swing through south east iowa and I'll hook u up haha
Title: Re: If backing with rawhide, how bad can a hickory board be?
Post by: Dakota Kid on March 08, 2016, 03:10:53 pm
Check the wheel barrel handles too. Make sure they are hickory first of course, but they often are.
Title: Re: If backing with rawhide, how bad can a hickory board be?
Post by: J05H on March 08, 2016, 05:00:04 pm
Check the wheel barrel handles too. Make sure they are hickory first of course, but they often are.

+1

I got a pair once thinking they were hickory and they turned out to be white oak. Still worked out pretty well. I'm just saying hickory isn't your only option.
Title: Re: If backing with rawhide, how bad can a hickory board be?
Post by: sleek on March 08, 2016, 07:08:20 pm
Pretty sure i have seen ash also. It works too.
Title: Re: If backing with rawhide, how bad can a hickory board be?
Post by: Springbuck on March 09, 2016, 12:53:37 pm
Also ash shovel handles.  A bit narrow, but good for backings. The grain is usually very obvious, and it's easy to chase a ring if you want.
Title: Re: If backing with rawhide, how bad can a hickory board be?
Post by: TheDeltaFactor on March 09, 2016, 02:19:31 pm
If I was going to use sledge handles, would I flatten the back and belly, essentially making a board from them? Or leave the back rounded and just flatten the belly for thickness and tillering?
Title: Re: If backing with rawhide, how bad can a hickory board be?
Post by: sleek on March 09, 2016, 04:59:37 pm
Leave the back round as it is then just tiller the belly as usual.
Title: Re: If backing with rawhide, how bad can a hickory board be?
Post by: TheDeltaFactor on March 09, 2016, 06:46:24 pm
Leave the back round as it is then just tiller the belly as usual.
Great, thanks.