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Title: Static recurve question?
Post by: Red Tailed Hawk on February 22, 2016, 12:03:47 pm
(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x438/lead955/F93CE194-7B8B-4329-9391-3A71ADD12EE8_zpsaw1eokoj.jpg) (http://s1181.photobucket.com/user/lead955/media/F93CE194-7B8B-4329-9391-3A71ADD12EE8_zpsaw1eokoj.jpg.html)  Will this 62" ntn Osage with static tips allow for a draw to 28" with a non bending handle? I don't intend on sinewing the back.
Title: Re: Static recurve question?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 22, 2016, 12:14:09 pm
My opinion? Way too short to be healthy for long. Let the handle bend, and you are in there. 
Title: Re: Static recurve question?
Post by: Red Tailed Hawk on February 22, 2016, 12:21:19 pm
Thanks pd I was on the fence with this one.
Title: Re: Static recurve question?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 22, 2016, 12:24:03 pm
It's not impossible to make it happen. We see it often. But, how are those same bows 3,4 or 5 years from now? Especially if they are regular shooters. I used to push it, I don't anymore. My flat bows are 65-66" long now, not 62 or 63". 
Title: Re: Static recurve question?
Post by: Pat B on February 22, 2016, 01:27:42 pm
Bring the limb tiller back to the handle. I use a small bulbous handle and I like to feel the handle give just a little as I hit full draw.
Title: Re: Static recurve question?
Post by: Red Tailed Hawk on February 22, 2016, 06:13:18 pm
Thanks guys, will post pics if all goes well
Title: Re: Static recurve question?
Post by: Springbuck on February 24, 2016, 12:24:44 pm
Marc St Louis could do it.   ;D

If I put in recurves that big on a short bow, I generally deflex the bow out of the handle.  With tips 2" ahead of the handle, I could make that bow for sure.  Tips 5" ahead? I'd kill it for sure....
Title: Re: Static recurve question?
Post by: Springbuck on February 24, 2016, 12:25:48 pm
 Oh, also, it depends on the limb width.  1-3/4" is better than 1-3/8" in this case...
Title: Re: Static recurve question?
Post by: simson on February 24, 2016, 12:32:51 pm
Hmm, I would say yes. I've made a lot of statics with stiff handles under 60"
Here is an example: http://primitive-bows.com/osage-static-5528/
Title: Re: Static recurve question?
Post by: Jodocus on February 24, 2016, 03:23:50 pm
Absolutely possible, but the handle must bend some. I really like a hot looking curved shorty like this could be. Pearlie's right, it wont last forever, but hey, I'm usually well stocked with bows and have certain workhorses that get shot until they're done for. Bows are consumables after all, unless they're showpieces wich is fine as well as long as they're made carefully and functional.
Title: Re: Static recurve question?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 24, 2016, 03:26:39 pm
I've learned a lot of longevity/durability after having bows finally turn 5 plus years old and some having shots thousands upon thousands of arrows. There is so much more to the story than simply holding together for a picture and a few hundred shots.
Title: Re: Static recurve question?
Post by: Jodocus on February 24, 2016, 03:32:32 pm
The bows I've made and shot heavily yet usually dropped in perfomance after around 2000 shots give or take. At that rate, it feels like I'm not making a lot of bows any more...  ;)
Title: Re: Static recurve question?
Post by: DC on February 24, 2016, 04:16:50 pm
I just did some rough figuring. I shoot 72 arrows(12 rounds of 6) about 5 days a week. Takes twenty minutes a day. At that rate I would shoot 2000 arrows in 5-6 weeks. I'll bet some guys shoot a lot more than that. Just trying to put this in perspective. You can put a lot of arrows through a bow with very little effort.
Title: Re: Static recurve question?
Post by: bow101 on February 24, 2016, 05:38:26 pm
I just did some rough figuring. I shoot 72 arrows(12 rounds of 6) about 5 days a week. Takes twenty minutes a day. At that rate I would shoot 2000 arrows in 5-6 weeks. I'll bet some guys shoot a lot more than that. Just trying to put this in perspective. You van put a lot of arrows through a bow with very little effort.

Are you shooting at 20 yards yet.  Last year I was trying to shoot at the second field target which is 25 yards.  I will try for more at 25-30 yards.
Title: Re: Static recurve question?
Post by: DC on February 24, 2016, 06:26:04 pm
Still about 15.
Title: Re: Static recurve question?
Post by: Dances with squirrels on February 24, 2016, 08:56:18 pm
"I've learned a lot of longevity/durability after having bows finally turn 5 plus years old and some having shots thousands upon thousands of arrows. There is so much more to the story than simply holding together for a picture and a few hundred shots."

I couldn't have said it better.

I still like to push limits on occasion, but find myself appreciating the best staves turned into bows 66" or so long.

My #1 osage selfbow is 66" long and 63# @ 28" and has been shot I don't know how many thousands of times since I made it in '04, and it's unbraced profile is almost exactly the same as the day I finished it.
Title: Re: Static recurve question?
Post by: sleek on February 24, 2016, 10:04:46 pm
That stave is a beauty. I wouldnt make a bow i didnt feel comfy with no mater what it is of a stave that nice. That being said i would be perfectly comfortable making a 28 inch draw of that stav. 62 is my prefered length and most every bow i make anymore is that length. How many pounds are you wanting to pull? 5o would be fine but you do need to have a shorter stiff handle.

As for longevity, i have only been doing this for 6 years. My oldest bows have broken. They are more poorly made than my new ones and even they break sometimes.  I cant say this one will or wont break or if it does or doesnt why. But bows break. Its a risk when bending a stick.