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Main Discussion Area => Primitive Skills => Topic started by: nclonghunter on February 05, 2016, 08:16:52 pm

Title: Hoop Rawhide Drums
Post by: nclonghunter on February 05, 2016, 08:16:52 pm
These drums are made from deer that I shot and made rawhide. The hoops are ash and hickory that was split from a tree and heat bent into the circles.

The one is a crow that I envisioned one day and it represents moving forward but watching your back trail. The bear paws are the dangers or powers in this world that are around you, which can be good or bad.

The second is from a painting in the Cova dels Cavalls cave in Valltorta Spain. It represents the early bow hunters connecting our past and my passion.

Hope you enjoy..
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Post by: Outbackbob48 on February 05, 2016, 08:30:42 pm
Wow, I love them, and really connected with the crow and bear prints, what do you use for paint or ink?  Bob
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Post by: Zuma on February 05, 2016, 10:38:27 pm
Wow! Also.
You are a man of many talents Lyman :)Very cool 8)
Zuma
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Post by: Spotted Dog on February 05, 2016, 11:04:39 pm
In many Native cultures the crow was a messenger. The Mesquakie revered the bird. Used them in dance costumes .
I love them both. Great work.
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Post by: unkieford on February 05, 2016, 11:10:40 pm
My ancestors (Norsemen) also revered ravens. The Norse believed that Odin kept a pair who would fly through the nine worlds, and report to him each evening what they saw.
They also flew a raven banner when they visited the rest of Europe, from time to time. ;)

---Ford---
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Post by: Swampman on February 06, 2016, 12:07:47 am
Wow!!!  Wow!!!

I really like them.  Very nice work.  The painting is great.
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Post by: YosemiteBen on February 06, 2016, 11:28:58 am
nice work!
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Post by: Patches on February 06, 2016, 11:34:13 am
Very cool work! Beautiful!

Neal
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Post by: Wolf Watcher on February 06, 2016, 01:28:18 pm
Thanks for sharing your work and talent.  I have seen the drawings and pictographs in South Africa, Argentina, Peru, Canada, Alaska, and here in Wyoming.  They all are amazing pictures of the ways of our various ansesters.  The southern Alaskan culture believed their dead would come back as Ravens to guide them thru their lives.  I am working on some moose raw hides for some double faced drums and find the painting to be the very most difficult of all the construction of a drum.  I am from the Cherokee bear clan so all of my things have the bear claws.  Your design is great and easy to understand. Thanks again!  Joe
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Post by: JW_Halverson on February 06, 2016, 04:37:13 pm
My ancestors (Norsemen) also revered ravens. The Norse believed that Odin kept a pair who would fly through the nine worlds, and report to him each evening what they saw.
They also flew a raven banner when they visited the rest of Europe, from time to time. ;)

---Ford---

Huginn and Muninn.  The two raven's names were Thought and Memory. Big Viking ju-ju!
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Post by: BowEd on February 06, 2016, 05:05:02 pm
Very cool use of your native materials.I like it.Got a beater for them?
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Post by: nclonghunter on February 06, 2016, 05:29:19 pm
Thank You for all the great comments and history. The raven/crow truely did come to me in a quick vision and I spent several hours making drawings until I got it as close as I could. It was flying up and away from me and its piercing eye was looking at me as it was leaving. I am pleased that the bird carries such power and meaning in the native american culture.

I will make the drum beaters from rivercane and brain tanned deer hide. Haven't got around to it yet..lol
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 06, 2016, 08:45:25 pm
You know I like em'!
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Post by: Stringman on February 07, 2016, 08:34:52 am
Those are inspiring pieces! Love the painting!
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Post by: nclonghunter on February 07, 2016, 11:34:57 am
Thanks everyone, I enjoy making them

Hey Scott, maybe I'll do one in the belt pattern you posted.
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Post by: Onebowonder on February 07, 2016, 11:41:45 am
Wow!!!   These are very inspiring!

OneBow
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Post by: Stringman on February 07, 2016, 01:43:07 pm

Hey Scott, maybe I'll do one in the belt pattern you posted.

If you do, I'm gonna want to trade you out of it.
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Post by: Pappy on February 08, 2016, 09:07:14 am
Now then are very nice, beautiful work. :)
 Pappy
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Post by: riverrat on February 09, 2016, 04:40:35 pm
those are sweeeet! very nice work
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Post by: Jodocus on February 11, 2016, 03:09:19 pm
Great! You really nailed the cova dels cavalls painting  8)
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Post by: ---GUTSHOT---> on February 17, 2016, 12:45:00 pm
Those are some cool drums.  Good job
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Post by: ---GUTSHOT---> on February 17, 2016, 12:48:56 pm
Those are some cool drums.  Good job
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Post by: lebhuntfish on February 17, 2016, 12:53:50 pm
Very well done! I love the complete use of natural materials too! Wow!

Patrick
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Post by: Onebowonder on February 17, 2016, 04:51:52 pm
I'm wondering what you use to set you artwork so it doesn't fade or smear from drumming or exposure to moisture?  ...say in a sweat lodge type of setting?

OneBow
Title: Re: Hoop Rawhide Drums
Post by: nclonghunter on February 17, 2016, 06:35:30 pm
I use Sharpie permanent marker in black for the drawing. (Have not tried any other colors) Surprisingly they do not bleed on the hide. I do not believe I would use any rawhide drum inside of a sweat lodge. I have been to native american drumming events and seen them hold the drums near a fire to keep the moisture out and the sound right. A sweat lodge would likely cause a very slow and poor sound if the moisture was high. I would put the drummer on the outside of the lodge near the fire that supply's the hot rocks. There may be some ceremonial purpose for having the drummer inside the lodge but I am not aware of it.