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Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: sleek on December 16, 2015, 01:03:46 pm

Title: osage conservation
Post by: sleek on December 16, 2015, 01:03:46 pm
Im no tree hugger, especially when it comes to thorny trees. I would however like to voice a thought. I never met a farmer who is fond of the tree and many cut and burn as many as they can. Some still use them for fence post.  We all cut them for bows. Id hate to see it go the way of the buffalo. Is this a valid concern where its being cut faster than planted?
Title: Re: osage conservation
Post by: JoJoDapyro on December 16, 2015, 01:22:42 pm
Plant some. I gave most of the hedge apples that Gun Doc sent me to the Arborist at the city I used to live in. He told me he planted 400 seeds that year. Just him and I know where.
Title: Re: osage conservation
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on December 16, 2015, 01:58:01 pm
Osage will follow mosquitos and cockroaches into endangerment.
Title: Re: osage conservation
Post by: BowEd on December 16, 2015, 06:05:51 pm
Osage is far from extint here.It's reharvested for posts from the same tree to get nice straight posts.The actual tree never does die.
Title: Re: osage conservation
Post by: Chippintuff on December 16, 2015, 06:45:59 pm
I have an unlimited supply of seed.

WA
Title: Re: osage conservation
Post by: RidgeRunner on December 17, 2015, 09:25:09 am
Did you hear the report on NPR last week.
Osage Balls now bring $180.00 a ton.

Someone is making cosmetic oil out of them.

David
Title: Re: osage conservation
Post by: Stringman on December 17, 2015, 09:40:09 am
That's like a penny a ball... I got better thangs todo.
Title: Re: osage conservation
Post by: osage outlaw on December 17, 2015, 09:58:14 am
That's like a penny a ball... I got better thangs todo.

I do to but my kids don't.  Where can you sell them?
Title: Re: osage conservation
Post by: Parnell on December 17, 2015, 10:00:19 am
What has to be done to process the seeds from fruit for planting over winter...anything?
Title: Re: osage conservation
Post by: Tree_Ninja on December 17, 2015, 10:12:57 am
If you're worried send some seeds up here, I'm sure the island climate will grow them. We have palm trees,monkey trees sequioa and black locust...
Title: Re: osage conservation
Post by: Stringman on December 17, 2015, 11:23:22 am
Plant the whole thing Steve
Title: Re: osage conservation
Post by: wizardgoat on December 17, 2015, 11:27:47 am
I've been lookin to get some too tree ninja, let's Johnny Appleseed Osage trees all over BC!
Any tree seems to grow very well in the south west BC, almost a little too well. Lots of black locust I've cut has too thick of early wood.
Title: Re: osage conservation
Post by: Pat B on December 17, 2015, 01:00:12 pm
Steve, put the balls in a bucket of water over winter. In the spring pour the mush in a shallow trench. Next fall dig up and transplant the seedlings. It helps is the seeds get enough cold to come out of dormancy and I'm not sure Fla has enough cold to do this.
Title: Re: osage conservation
Post by: DC on December 17, 2015, 01:59:16 pm
I've been lookin to get some too tree ninja, let's Johnny Appleseed Osage trees all over BC!
Any tree seems to grow very well in the south west BC, almost a little too well. Lots of black locust I've cut has too thick of early wood.

I'm in!!
Title: Re: osage conservation
Post by: Zuma on December 17, 2015, 03:43:49 pm
I have seen them take over thousand of acres along the Ohio River.
I gots some apples down in the creek already for planting.
Want to pay the shipping?
Zuma
Title: Re: osage conservation
Post by: BowEd on December 17, 2015, 10:58:11 pm
I know in this part of the country in southern Iowa and northern Missouri the deer,squirrels and maybe birds will eat them after they've been froze.Later in the winter.Like turnips they need to be froze to release the sugar in them and not make them so bitter.They get transplanted here through their scat.They come up voluntarily all over pastures that are  unkept.
Title: Re: osage conservation
Post by: Parnell on December 18, 2015, 07:57:27 am
Steve, put the balls in a bucket of water over winter. In the spring pour the mush in a shallow trench. Next fall dig up and transplant the seedlings. It helps is the seeds get enough cold to come out of dormancy and I'm not sure Fla has enough cold to do this.

There is no way they'd grow in zone 10, Pat.  I'm thinking I'll plant a bunch in Ohio on my bro-in-laws new place.  He's got a nice 10 acre spread.  When I was hunting in TN the other week the apples were all over the ground.  I'm thinking I'll ask my buddy Cody Scott to mail some of them over to Sean's house.  We're heading there the day after Christmas for a week.

The other thing I'm really considering getting them for Christmas are some of the reintroduced American Chestnut tree saplings that are now on the market that have been genetically reproduced and made fungus resistant.  Everyone on the Eastern seaboard should be reintroducing them.  I should start a thread for that...

Thanks.
Title: Re: osage conservation
Post by: Pat B on December 18, 2015, 08:08:11 am
I set out 10 American chestnuts a few years back in a nursery bed for a year until they developed somewhat. The next spring when I was ready for the final transplant I found that voles had eaten the roots off all of them.   >:(   I need to try it again.
Title: Re: osage conservation
Post by: Zuma on December 18, 2015, 01:48:49 pm



The other thing I'm really considering getting them for Christmas are some of the reintroduced American Chestnut tree saplings that are now on the market that have been genetically reproduced and made fungus resistant.  Everyone on the Eastern seaboard should be reintroducing them.  I should start a thread for that...

Thanks.
That's great news. I'll have to check that out. A little to late for me
but the kids could enjoy them.
I find quite a few growing out of old stumps in the mountains
but they never mature.
Zuma
Title: Re: osage conservation
Post by: darinputman on December 18, 2015, 07:15:50 pm
I planted a few in 16 inch root trainers back in the spring, if I can get them through the winter plan on planting this year. Got persimmon, osage, saw tooth oak, Paw paw and american chesnut. Hopefully with a little work all will go well.
Title: Re: osage conservation
Post by: Danzn Bar on December 18, 2015, 08:01:28 pm
Good for you darin pass it forward....... there will be many people enjoy those trees for years to come.....
Thank you,
DBar
Title: Re: osage conservation
Post by: nclonghunter on December 19, 2015, 07:03:46 am
I have seen them take over thousand of acres along the Ohio River.
I gots some apples down in the creek already for planting.
Want to pay the shipping?
Zuma

I would just like to know where the thousand acres is???
Title: Re: osage conservation
Post by: BowEd on December 19, 2015, 07:52:23 am
nclonghunter.....I know it's hard to imagine but if you come over to southern Iowa you would see a thousand acres covered with osage and of course the perverbial thorn tree...the honey locust.It's along fencelines for hundreds of miles here too.That's why they call it hedge around here.
Title: Re: osage conservation
Post by: jeffp51 on December 19, 2015, 10:47:34 am
Well shoot, sounds like some of you have a real Osage infestation problem. Please let some of us help you dispose of the waste wood. I can sacrifice and make space for some of it. ;D
Title: Re: osage conservation
Post by: mullet on December 19, 2015, 06:11:30 pm
I've got two growing in my front yard, one over six feet tall and, last I checked I still live in Zone 10.
Title: Re: osage conservation
Post by: RidgeRunner on December 19, 2015, 07:40:30 pm
I am going to get some of those American Chesnuts.
Did not know they were on the open market.

If they start to make nuts before I get to old to get around.....
They will be planted on the side of every ridge around here.

David
Title: Re: osage conservation
Post by: mullet on December 19, 2015, 11:36:45 pm
Ooops, Guess I'm in Zone 9A. Steve, all you have to do is put them in the freezer for a little bit. I've germinated them pretty easy down here.