Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Primitive Skills => Topic started by: BowEd on December 16, 2015, 08:15:01 am
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Around here people will still do their own butchering,but they don't care to tan....Guess you can't eat the hide they figure so I get some freebees once in a while.Frame is made of 2" by 6" with inside dimensions 6.5 by 5.5 feet.For thicker hides such as beef hides it's wise to use 2" by 6".2" by 4" will get bowed while drying fairly bad.Suppose it's around 30 square feet.Basically the green hide is laced into a frame/fleshed or fleshed on a beam then laced into a frame/left to dry and then dry scraped dehaired.You can flesh then dehair it with lye & rinse too then lace it into a frame to dry for a final nice flat piece of rawhide to do with what you want.I've made 3 rawhide side or cat quivers out of his beef so far.Here's a couple.FG shooters at 3D shoots ask me to make them for them.The same preperation process is done for deer rawhide too and 2" by 4" can be used for those thinner skinned animals.
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Cool ! Bob
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I like that.
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Thanks fellas.I think once someone uses rawhide a few times they usually like it.This stuff from beef is too thick for backing bows.Excellent for handle wraps,quivers,etc.I'm sure there's other things too.
The quivers I heat soaked parrafin in to saturation.It'll hold up to pesky little showers and early morning fogs and stuff.If it rains hard enough it fills up with water for a tastey slucky of water to drink.
Many other things cam be made.Some back pocket and belt quivers too.'
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Rawhide boxes.
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Parafleches from buffalo rawhide.Their like rawhide suit cases or large rawhide envelopes.Usually always made in pairs.
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When making holes through rawhide this thick an awl is the tool to use opposed to using a leather punch.I used to use an ice pick for years but finally made myself one out of antler and a hard nail.Beadwork on sheath is the in line wrap method of ponytrader blues/brick white hearts/greasy yellows.Some crow beads and tin cones.
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Wow very nice......
DBar
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You do great work ed
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Thanks but well from the beautiful bows I've seen given away on this site it's just something else anyway.
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I like cow hide. 8)
Have you had the opportunity
to work/use buffalo? ???
Thanks,Zuma
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Yes I have.Brain tanned a couple too and made rawhide out of one other.Parafleches etc.The rawhide of a buffalo is a little different than a beef.Coarser.The smaller you go with ungulates the finer and tighter the fibers of the rawhide are.Moose...Buffalo...elk....deer etc.
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Now horse is nice too.Not quite as thick as beef,about like elk but not as coarse.
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No matter what kind.All the different types of rawhide are very useful in projects.For knife sheaths though it needs to be mink oiled inside for steel unless you use a flint knife.
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That's good info.
Thanks Beadman for taking the time. :)
I just gave a bear hide to a friend of mine.
He wants to make shoes. I know the bear
is not a bovine but it has a hide. >:D
Zuma
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Yep.Depends how big the bear was.I'd make knee high hair on winter mocs out of it myself or a least gaiters.Line it with a wool blanket.They say a woodchuck has the best rawhide for strings.Something about rodents.
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The little characteristics of rawhide you find out from brain tanning them.Their all suited for paticular uses.I lived 45 years of my life right in the corner where the borders of Iowa,Minnesota,and South Dakota meet so I'm influenced a great deal by the plains Indian culture.It's all good.Last and only time I was at the Tennesee Classic I got a kick out of Pappy and another fella wearing their skin shirts to saturday night feed.Pretty cool.
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I swear I have had more opportunity to
prepare myself or send hides out to be tanned.
We used to give all our groundhog/woodchuck
hides to the local fur buyer. He would have vest made
that looked just like gray fox. My daughter always
wanted to know the organs in the carcases I was
skinning. I do hope Matt leaves the bear hair on.
It is/was luxuriously appealing.
I think it's to late for me to turn an animal skin into a
utilitarian work of art. Sorry I missed that boat.
Perhaps in my next life.
Zuma
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There's a company in Owattona,Minnesota called Uber glove company.They'll make practically anything you want from your deer or elk hides.I liked their one fingered mittens.
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X
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nice work Beady! I like your suitcase!
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Very nice, always good to get freebees.
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That's my 4 winds design on the box I developded back in the 80's.My beadwork has the same design too.I once gave an artist major/buckskinner a large piece of beef rawhide.He in turn drew and painted this eye popping beautiful design of a full width badger wrapped all the way around the box.The box was 1.5' wide,1' deep and 6" tall.Wish I had a pic of it.It was something else.
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thats all really nice stuff youve made there. you have quite a lot of talent.Tony
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Thanks Tony but if I remember right your always investigating different things too.Cool.Correction......That rawhide box of my friend was 18" wide,12"deep,and 6" tall.It was a beaut.Been at this primitive natural material stuff a long time and dig it when someone else is into it too.Made a number of different things too out of rawhide but mostly try to make things that have a purpose and can be used.
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X
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I shoulda paid more attention to the quivers everyone was using when we were out shootin' last weekend!
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Some more...An arm guard[rawhide & lace up braintan] and glove[brain tan] combo.Hand goes through the rawhide then thumb and index finger go through the brain tan.It's about 6 years old by now.
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thats a nice arm guard ! Tony
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Thanks.I lined the inside of the slotted rawhide arm guard with sheared sheep skin.Nowadays shooting I really don't think I need it any more though.What I like about this thread is your imagination is your only limit.
A few more rawhide items made some time ago.An Arkansas toothpick file knife with a deer leg bone handle with beaded rawhide sheath,a beaded rawhide neck knife sheath and knife,and a bear jaw handled knife with a beaded rawhide sheath.
PS....Rawhide is covered with brain tan glued on to allow it to be beaded.
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Nice work Beadman ! Bob
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wonderful stuff, the armguard is excellent! :o
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Thanks fellas.Things like these I made during the winter time from February to April.Did a lot of brain tanning during that time too in the basement of the farm home.Had a rendering business there by the edge of town that I knew all who worked there.Traded with those fellas a lot for extra hides especially rode killed deer.Acquiring receipts etc. also to stay out of the hair of the local game warden.
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Thanks for spending all the time to put the pictures back in these threads Ed. Sure hope we never lose them again. I just love looking at your leather and rawhide creations. I need to get better at these skills.
Bjrogg
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Thanks for spending all the time to put the pictures back in these threads Ed. Sure hope we never lose them again. I just love looking at your leather and rawhide creations. I need to get better at these skills.
Bjrogg
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I don't know if it's skill or a battle of attrition leaving yourself something you are pleased with.I do know it's an effort or mentality of not being afraid to fail.Then after those failures a person gets the method ironed out to a nice result.
Hope your rawhide quiver you told me about gets shown in a bit.
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You are a true artisan Ed!
I've seen most of your work you have posted here and its truly beautiful stuff.
Patrick
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Thanks Pat.It's fun to share a liking with those that have the same type of liking.
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Thanks Pat.It's fun to share a liking with those that have the same type of liking.
Yes Sir it is, I think thats why most of us are here!
Patrick
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Ed,
Is there a pattern available for that arm guard? I'd like to try that with some tanned elk I have.
Hawkdancer
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Hawk...I used a tight fitting womens cotton glove as a pattern.Just the index and thumb as a part.
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Alot of talent going on there. Great stuff.
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Good way to stay out of trouble too.
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Enjoyed this thread. Some outstanding work done. I have two bear hides in the freezer from my bear and my sons bear that we shot last Sept. Not quite sure what I am going to do with them. Would like to get them tanned with the hair on to make some quivers for the grand kids.
Again, great work