Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Rob W. on December 14, 2015, 08:41:14 pm
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I'm just wondering what you guys think I should do with this narrow piece of osage. I've been scratching my head and looking at it for the last hour.
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me, id try tieing a plumb bob to a rafter, then holding the stave up to that string see how it goes down the stave. is there a "handle" area it crosses from one end to the other? will you need to shorten it to make everything line up {tips and handle} . maybe need to heat bend a few areas? whatever you do your going to want the tips to line up with the handle.whatever happens in between is just fine long as theres no monster knots.theres a bow in there, i seen it :) Tony
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It's definitely going to need some straightening. Do you guys think I could get by with 64" or shorter and bend through the handle?
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My snakey Osage 64 inch stiff handle. I only pull 26 inch though.
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That don't look too bad, as long as you can get the string on the handle your fine
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It's definitely going to need some straightening. Do you guys think I could get by with 64" or shorter and bend through the handle?
Yessir
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I would lay out a center line by following the longitudinal grain just like it is then lay the bow out from there, after a little floor tillering I would do what ever it needs to get things lined up on the handle and tips with dry heat or steam depending on how old the wood is. :) You will have to follow the snake or it will never hold. Good looking piece of wood, challenging but nice just the same. :)
Pappy
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I'm with Pappy ! bob
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Looks like you might be on a few rings there.
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I've got a center line drawn following the grain. The wood is pretty old. I can't remember how old but at least 5 yrs plus.
There is a few spots I need to scrape but I should be on a ring. This piece has a lot of darker coloration in it.
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Should I use steam or dry heat?
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Dry heat will do everything you will need.
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That stave will teach ya a thing or two!!! Good luck :) id prob go bendy handle with it if it was me
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Your definitely not on one ring there. I wouldn't try anything further until getting that back cleaned up and sides squared.
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That one is a challenge for sure. Good luck. Arvin
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Can't really see myself about your violation of ring but does it have a heck of a twist to it?It's doable like what's been said but it'll challenge ya for sure.
Pappy's the expert here on that one.
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What should you do?
You should make a bow!
My site may help.
http://traditionalarchery101.com/
Clamp a sash cord, or similar, tip to tip to see where the string lays in the handle area.
Don't be too quick to cut it to length and 64" is plenty for your draw length.
Chase a ring.
Cut to length.
Floor tiller.
Layout bow following the lateral grain that runs tip to tip. You will see it.
Measure on either side of the line to get the width. Your stave is narrow so you could possible skip this step.
Straighten as needed. Dry heat will work for a dry stave.
Long string tiller.
Tiller.
Check my site.
Jawge
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yes make a bow,, if that curvy tip is getting to thin, cut the bow to 60ish and make a bendy handle,, I see a nice bow in there :)
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I ended up with a beautiful s shaped center shot black locust bow because someone here asked me a simple question 'who says the string HAS to be centered on the handle'. point is, don't be afraid to think out of the box!
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Thanks guys. I'm sure I will have more questions about this build. I appreciate the help. I'm going to do some heat bending this evening.
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Ok let's see if this sucker will straighten out some and get rid of that prop twist.......
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Yep looking better, you can do wonders with heat and Osage, just take your time and if takes several tweaking that's fine. Jawges pretty much run down the list to follow. Keep us posted. ;) I like you choice of beer also ;) :D I have worked for them for 34 years. ;)
Pappy
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First you take out the propeller and see where you are at. With that much propeller you may get some stress cracks taking it out.
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Is your stave to floor tiller yet?
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Propeller is pretty well out. Finishing floor tiller tonight after a little more heat on one limb.
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Yeah...that looks too thick to be trying to make heat corrections....get it floor tillered first next time...and then build your self a form/caul. You can fix everything all at once and induce a lil reflex while your at it...its waaaaay easier than trying to jimmy rig like what you showed,and then having to heat it up multiple times...... me.. id rather kill 4 birds with one stone
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Well guys I got to a point fixing little issues with this bow that I called it good, put a handle wrap on it and hunted with it this morning. Some areas were really close to where it was split and really narrow not to mention all the ups/downs, snake and a big knot hole. I was getting close to going under weight and I want to finish deer season with a selfbow.
Bendy handle osage 58" ntn 47#@28"
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I also had enough time to build a couple river cane arrows before the hunt. Nothing special but they fly true.
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that should get the job done,, looks very nice congrats :)
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That's a beauty! Nice tiller. Jawge
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Thanks guys! I really appreciate the input and all of the knowledgeable people on here. I'm ready to start another bow now. ;)
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Looks like it turned out nice. Well done. :)
Pappy
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congrats for mastering that challange, it`s a beauty Hans
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Shows what I know!!! I thought you were on multiple rings on the back. Very nice job. :-[
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Nice job on that snakey piece of osage, pretty bow. Kenneth
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nicely done
chuck
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Dang! Bravo on getting that one done. Hatz-off.
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Nice bow.