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Title: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: Carson (CMB) on December 05, 2015, 02:26:26 am

Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
I had a request to make two bows, one yew and one of osage, both in a similar longbow design. The goal was to get them both in the 55-60# range @ 30” in a 68” package.  The nature of this task challenged me as a bowyer, but I feel like I hit the mark. Both are in a pyramid limb flatbow design with a little overall reflex and flip of the tips. Of course, the osage held all of the flip, while the yew pulled out a little. This is a design that I really like for a hunting bow.
Both shoot very nicely. I have a hard time drawing to a full thirty inches, I am almost to 29” on the full draw pics. I also made up 2 dozen douglas-fir arrows to go with the bows (65-70# spine, 31” BOP), which fly very cleanly out of both bows.
The pin nocks are tiny. The handle is rawhide lace, bordered by a silk thread wrap. Finished with my own version of a French polish.

Osage
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Ishi Style arrows by my friend Shawn Woods. Ocean spray shafts with mahogany foreshafts. Flint and agate tips.

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Yew


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Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: Weylin on December 05, 2015, 03:06:29 am

Those turned out sweet! That is a cool and challenging project to make sister bows like that from different species. Looks like you nailed it.

I really like that grain coming out of the yew bow's handle.

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: Jodocus on December 05, 2015, 03:25:34 am

Wow! Those are classy. You should add a shot of moth together as well...
Really nice work, no ginggernillis and cool lines and curves  8)

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: sieddy on December 05, 2015, 03:45:27 am

Jeepers they are a beautiful pair right enough! :-D

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: sieddy on December 05, 2015, 04:36:30 am

Which is best?  ;)

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: Selfbowman on December 05, 2015, 06:15:09 am

Very nice bows. Well done.  Arvin

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: RyanR on December 05, 2015, 06:51:14 am

Both are VERY nice bows. I bet that was quite a challenge.

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: Badly Bent on December 05, 2015, 07:48:10 am

Very nice set of bows Carson, the full draw profiles are matched so well that I can't distinguish one from the other. Way to deliver the goods man.  :)

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: PatM on December 05, 2015, 08:03:23 am

Beautiful work , Carson.  Nice to see nocks without overlays from time to time.

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: ajooter on December 05, 2015, 08:06:29 am

I agree with everybody all around gorgeous bows carson!

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: steve b. on December 05, 2015, 08:25:16 am

Beautiful.  Ideal in every way.   I agree about the overlays.  That project would have taken me 6 months.

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: Fred Arnold on December 05, 2015, 08:27:36 am

Carson, you do nice work.I could live happily the remainder of my life with a matched set like that and I'm the kind of guy that's went through hundreds of bows so far.

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: BowEd on December 05, 2015, 08:41:18 am

Gorgeous Carson!!!!Those will more than fill the bill in looks,hunting,and just plain shooting for fun.The guy I made a 68"  hedge for is coming over today for me to put skins on his.I had him shooting it in the last few days.He's got a 30 to 31 inch anchor too.Says he loves the way it shoots.Smooooothneeeeesss.It'll be a challenge to come up to the standard of these two beauties of yours.

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: George Tsoukalas on December 05, 2015, 09:14:36 am

So nice! Excellent work form the tiller to the finish! Jawge

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: bushboy on December 05, 2015, 09:35:18 am

Beauty x 2 8)!sweet profiles and finish!

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: riverrat on December 05, 2015, 09:47:26 am

wow two beauties ! very nice! Tony

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: TimothyR on December 05, 2015, 11:06:29 am

Very nice sir!  They look great.

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: Hans H on December 05, 2015, 11:13:06 am

very nie set, congrats,  Hans

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: bubby on December 05, 2015, 11:13:27 am

A challenging build and you stepped up and delivered Carson very nice, bub

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: Floridabowyer on December 05, 2015, 12:22:26 pm

Those bows are excellent Carson! Great job as usual!

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: Carson (CMB) on December 05, 2015, 12:30:52 pm

Here are the only pictures I got of them side by side. A shame really, considering all of the work to make them matched.

(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k633/Acer_circinatum/IMG_8317_zpstdzg6x3e.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Acer_circinatum/media/IMG_8317_zpstdzg6x3e.jpg.html)

My 5 year old son took this photo:
(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k633/Acer_circinatum/IMG_8316_zpsqh6lpwac.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Acer_circinatum/media/IMG_8316_zpsqh6lpwac.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: Carson (CMB) on December 05, 2015, 12:37:53 pm

Quote from: steve b. on December 05, 2015, 08:25:16 am

Beautiful.  Ideal in every way.   I agree about the overlays.  That project would have taken me 6 months.

It took me 14 months :)... about 10 of those were mental preparation months.

More and more, I like a good self nock.

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: Carson (CMB) on December 05, 2015, 12:44:14 pm

I have to give credit to Aaron H (Falcon) for the inspiration on the pin nocks. I had simple little pin nocks and couldnt see a way to make them look a little fancier while keeping them simple and functional. Then I saw his osage pin nocks in PA magazine on his July self Bow of the Month. Thanks Aaron.  :)

Thanks for all of the very nice comments gentlemen. It really is a great feeling to get the nod of approval from bowyers I have long admired.

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: Bryce on December 05, 2015, 02:00:20 pm

Flawless as always!

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: wizardgoat on December 05, 2015, 02:10:45 pm

Carson, not sure which one I like better!
Probably the yew one  ;)
Excellent craftsmanship as usual

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: Peacebow_Coos on December 05, 2015, 09:44:07 pm

beautiful work Carson, they are definitely identical twins, but with their own personalities.

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: IdahoMatt on December 05, 2015, 10:36:35 pm

Great job Carson.  You've been turning out some great bows as usual :).  Keep em coming.  Great for inspiration.

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: rps3 on December 06, 2015, 09:33:40 am

I too have come to prefer a similar design for hunting. You sure have made a beautiful pair of bows, thanks for posting.

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: JonW on December 06, 2015, 09:49:27 am

Stunning Carson. I agree with the others on the self nocks. Great work.

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: Ruddy Darter on December 06, 2015, 10:42:54 am

Great looking bows with a nice draw length, really nice work.  8)



   Ruddy Darter.

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: hochgaertner on December 06, 2015, 11:54:35 am

wonderful bows

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: Danzn Bar on December 06, 2015, 02:44:34 pm

Don't know how I missed this one.....beautiful bows Carson
DBar

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: DuBois on December 06, 2015, 04:01:45 pm

Absolutely nothing wrong with those...except there not at my house!

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: jandersson on December 06, 2015, 09:53:21 pm

Clean, simple and classy! I really like the handles. Nice work as always!

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: blackhawk on December 07, 2015, 06:45:12 am

Nice set carson!! :)

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: Pappy on December 07, 2015, 07:49:08 am

Beautiful, love them both. :) Someone should be very happy. :)
 Pappy

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: Will B on December 07, 2015, 07:52:33 am

Absolutely beautiful bows!  I love the curves and the finish is really nice.  Great job on both.

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: scp on December 07, 2015, 09:01:16 am

Definitely works of art. How fast do they shoot?

Title: Re: Twins, Osage and Yew flatbows both 68” and 57# @ 30”
Post by: Aaron H on December 07, 2015, 11:55:43 am

Quote from: Carson (CMB) on December 05, 2015, 12:44:14 pm

I have to give credit to Aaron H (Falcon) for the inspiration on the pin nocks. I had simple little pin nocks and couldnt see a way to make them look a little fancier while keeping them simple and functional. Then I saw his osage pin nocks in PA magazine on his July self Bow of the Month. Thanks Aaron.  :)

Thanks for all of the very nice comments gentlemen. It really is a great feeling to get the nod of approval from bowyers I have long admired.

Well I'm honored to even be mentioned when talking about those two gorgeous matching sisters.   Well done Carson