Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Dakota Kid on December 03, 2015, 09:12:07 pm
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Has anyone used this product? Is it a true hide glue suitable for sinew adhesion(does it shrink)? Not that the powdered stuff is all that hard to prepare, but it would be nice to have it ready to go.
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Used some on an arrow next to another arrow with regular hide glue. Had to water it down and it seemed to sit on top of everything a lot more than real hide glue but I think it was fine once I worked it in. Hasn't given me trouble anyway.
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The way it's promoted it has me nervous to try it on sinew bow backing. It's described as a way to achieve crackling for an antique foux finish. I usually only get a couple deer to pull sinew from each year. I'm too big of a wussy to risk losing any of it to a failed glue job. I may just stick to knox and diy dog chew glue until I get my courage from the wizard.
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I've used it before and it's just OK. It does shrink but doesn't dry or gel up as fast as my rabbit skin glue I usually use and it can also go bad in the bottle. Pay attention to the expiration date. It's only easier to use because of the longer working time and there's no heat/glue pot involved. I've used it mostly for applying flax fiber and flax fiber patches etc but have even stopped doing that as patching a weak area on a bow back is futile at best...
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Long term you tend to not hear great things about liquid hide glue. It seems to be fine when used in typical fashion but less so when used in a thicker matrix.
There is another 'liquid" hide glue made by a smaller company that likely uses much less urea to keep the glue liquid. It actually needs to be warmed a bit as it gels somewhat. It's called 'Old Brown Glue". That type might be worth a shot.
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If there's one universal lesson that continues to arise when it comes to this hobby it's that you'll regret cutting corners. This is not a pass time for the impatient or lazy. I suppose it would feel like cheating anyway. I might grab a bottle of the old brown glue, but much testing will be involved before any backing attempts.
Thanks Guys.
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I've used it on sinew wrapped arrows and sinew wrapping on bows. No problem.
Jawge
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I use it a lot for sinew wrapping and the like. It takes forever for it to fully dry. It stays slightly tacky for days sometimes. I would not use it to back a bow. Josh
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I have a recipe to make your own liquid hide glue but it involves using salt. Salt would make the finished glue even more hygroscopic than it already is.
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Liquid hide glue has additives added and thus it had a shelf life. If it was old it would not dry but remain tacky for a long time.
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i use it for arrows. but im not so sure id trust it for sinew backing a bow. thats a lot of work to go south if it dont work out. Tony