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Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: JoJoDapyro on November 17, 2015, 11:47:00 am
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What does everyone use for dust collection? My shop is a mess, I am thinking about piping in a system and using a shop-vac and a cyclone dust separator. I have a Bandsaw, Table saw and a Miter saw currently in my shop, with the amount of dust that accumulates in my shop it makes it a bit scary to grind or cut metal in there. Thanks for your advice in advance.
Joe
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The best bet, IMO, is to hook your Shop Vac up to each tool as needed. For the air, I use a box air cleaner on my ceiling. It helps.
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I use all the horizontal surfaces in my shop as dust collectors. ;D
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Metal work don't belong in a wood shop
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Metal work don't belong in a wood shop
I use my bandsaw as a sander sometimes. And I cut all thread. That is the extent of my metal work.
I wonder how my wife will feel "Honey, I need a metal shop now".
Although a forge and a good anvil would be nice. All I need is more hobbies.
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Every once in a while I have to weld something. It's stupid, I know, but when it's peeing down rain and it's just one little bead. I do it first thing in the morning and then I'm paranoid(with good reason) the rest of the day. I too need a dust collection system. Right now I wait for a windy day, open all the doors and windows, and walk around with a leaf blower stirring everything up. I'll be reading this with interest.
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The best bet, IMO, is to hook your Shop Vac up to each tool as needed. For the air, I use a box air cleaner on my ceiling. It helps.
The vac solution, imo, is good 1st step. But I'm so dang lazy that I often say, "heck with it", and cut away sans vac hookup.
Do need to put together one of those box fan + furnace filter solutions to catch some of the air borne stuff. If get REAL motivated, will give this approach a go. www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,54850.msg744986.html#msg744986
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I use a shop vac hooked up to an oneida dust deputy. Works great for small stuff. I would not hook it up to a planer, but for hand held sanders, smaller runs on the table saw, and for a floor sweep - it works great and I never have to worry about losing suction due to the filter clogging.
Russ
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I have a dust collection too! So far I have collected two five gallon buckets of the stuff. Mostly osage. Thinking of making a dye. I use a shop vac hooked to my sander. Works good last long time.
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Metal work don't belong in a wood shop
I use my bandsaw as a sander sometimes. And I cut all thread. That is the extent of my metal work.
I wonder how my wife will feel "Honey, I need a metal shop now".
Although a forge and a good anvil would be nice. All I need is more hobbies.
I wont even temper or shape a bow until I get my shop cleaned up. A few times an errant heat gun spark made smoke on my floor. That's scarey crap in a shop basement.
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I have 2 shop vacs, one permanently hooked up to my bandsaw and the other moves from one tool to another. The only thing that does not have dust collection on it is my jointer
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The Dust deputy looks interesting. I have a big old shop vac with an ineffectual filter. One of these on front of it may be the answer.
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The Dust deputy looks interesting. I have a big old shop vac with an ineffectual filter. One of these on front of it may be the answer.
It goes on a separate container. I have seen 55 gallon drums used, or paper drums. There is another that goes on either a bucket, or a larger container sold at one of the wood working stores I am thinking of picking up. $60 for the Dust Deputy is a bit rich for my blood. I have been using my shop vac hooked up to my band saw, but it does clog my filter with a quickness. In the end I would like to run PVC to all of my saws, and another few extra outlets for expansion, and use either the DD or the other cheaper alternative. My clean-up will also get simpler when I pull all the carpet >:D Who would have thought, carpet isn't a good idea in a wood shop!
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I though it was a bit rich for my blood but my house is worth more than $60.
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Go big, you will never regret it. I put this one in an adjacent room because it is so loud when it runs. It has a remote start and is piped in to all my equipment.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/bow%20making/dustcollector.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ekrewson/media/bow%20making/dustcollector.jpg.html)
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That is my first thought. There are a few used one on a local sales site here in Utah. Sneaking $100 isn't as easy as it used to be.
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The noise is a big issue for me. I don't have an adjacent room and I think I would rather have dust than noise. How long after you use each tool do you run the dust collector? If I could get away with just having the collector running while the tool is running I could live with it. I'm mostly concerned with the belt sander and table saw and fortunately they are right beside each other. For me the shavings from scraping are the fire hazard. They are on the floor right under my vise. I sweep them up many times a day but there is still a big pile not far from where I do most of my work.
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If you have a dedicated 20 amp outlet just hook up to older style vacuums like filter queens and use the cyclone. You can even make a cyclone. Or do what Pearl recommends use the shop vac for each machine. If you want piping just buy built in Vacuum pipe its cheap and big enough for the stuff we do as long as no big chunks are getting sucked up.
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I've got a fan at the door and open the back window. I'm moving my big sanders outside, now, though.
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for dry dust with shop vacs I have found that you can take an old tee shirt and tie off the neck and arm holes and stretch the bottom of the shirt around the rim of the shop vac bucket like you would with a trashcan liner in a trash can
saves the smaller canister filter for the fines
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for dry dust with shop vacs I have found that you can take an old tee shirt and tie off the neck and arm holes and stretch the bottom of the shirt around the rim of the shop vac bucket like you would with a trashcan liner in a trash can
saves the smaller canister filter for the fines
Its the fine particulate that will Damage your lungs. Take it from me I have smoked and breathed in enough dust from shops and job sites. My Lungs are toast. Yes I can breathe but shoveling snow is like climbing mount Everest.
If you use the good paper masks thats ok. but remember it takes a while before the dust settles. No Pun there . :laugh:
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I hear you about the dust. my lungs will probably be the death of me, but god willing that won't be for another 20 years I hope.
I have been like mullet and try to do the sanding outside when I can Hopefully I can get to where I don't need to use powertools at all, but the bandsaw is hard to give up.
the tee shirt was a way to be able to use the finest filter I can find for the vac itself.
all in all, I think that shop vacs are a poor substitue for a proper system, but every bit helps indoors
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My shop is out side . ;) :) :)
Pappy
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If you search the online classifieds and thrift shops you can probably pick up a good used Built In vac for less than $150. The only major service issue with any vac is the motor.