Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Flintknapping => Topic started by: Zuma on October 25, 2015, 11:47:35 am
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Here are a few scraps of Flint River that I heat treated
with my jasper. The heat really makes the chert much
better to knap and gives it a lustrous sheen.
Zuma
Go boppers :)
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Those look good. I am also a copper knapper, but I am considering diversifying to antler, bone and stone, not because that is the right way, but because it will widen my skill at knapping.
WA
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Cool; those are some neat looking scraps.
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I like it! Keep on knapping. We knap for different reasons today than hundreds or thousands of years ago. And all modern reasons are valid.
The why effects the how and the how affects the why. And the person who decides what, is neither you nor I.
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Don, real nice, what ya heating that flint river too, looks nice and glassy ;D. Bob
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X2 ? On Outbackbobs48 ?
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Great to read the replies.
I by no means posted this thread to make light of abo
type knapping or those that pursue it. I am glad that you all get it.
It may seem we are getting over run by abo info and
folks that have convinced themselves that abo is the only way.
I know most of the posters and I am aware of their passions
for close to thirty years.
They are one awesome fraturnity/ soroity.They are totally admirable and
generous as I can imagine intelligent, avant garde folks to be.
I never even considered that a rift or divide in the way one comes
to the completion of a point would be in question.
As I bopper they even save me a handicap parking space at the knap-ins.
LOL just joshin. They never make distinction (except in jest) about the way
one enjoys the hobby. They embrace and share freely their talents, material,
land use, ideas and most of all their friendships.
I have no doubt that if any of this seems to be a problem it is only in the distinction of the definition of knapping and not the folks that make that distinction.
Zuma
Go Knappers
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Which NM ABO folks are we talking about?
Dalton, I really like your poetic line. :)
Bob, I'll soon post the heating method.
Iowa
I could post names but I think events would be better
as I don't really like to be to personal without folks permission.
My first experiences were with the publisher of The Indian Artifact Mag
and here locally (Page Co) VA Fort Liscomb where there was a big
influence from Oregon Ridge MD. Also House Mt knap-in and Schiele NC.
I would include you too Iowa even though I don't know if I know you
personally? lol Your posts are good enough for me.
Zuma
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Iowabow keep posting i like reading about abo even though try as i might i struggle with it your points i got in the trade are some of the sharpest I've seen and show great skill
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Iowabow keep posting i like reading about abo.l
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And I think that the only folks that may be accused of taking a shot
at others were completely in jest. Other posters did not know this
as they didn't know those folks knew each other and do that kind
of thing all the time. I don't see any bad bones here just some minor missunderstandings. I sure hope so anyway.
Zuma
I vote to get on with the knapping :)
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yeah I know what ya mean.
I have always been the black sheep. >:D
My momma didn't even like me. :'(
really :o
Zuma
Oh btw I should post these here while I'm at it.
The chunks were from a good friend. Tom W
Thanks Tom
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^^ Yeah. One of my favorite threads has vanished.
I was just re-reading the entire thread to help commit everything to memory. I was on page 10 again. Was going to continue after dinner.
Denied. Hah hah.
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^^ Yeah. One of my favorite threads has vanished.
I was just re-reading the entire thread to help commit everything to memory. I was on page 10 again. Was going to continue after dinner.
Denied. Hah hah.
Quickly document the first ten leOn.
What is really bad, is that I think all of Iowa 's threads went away.
Any Ideas or info? Anyone
Zuma
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I got an idea.
His threads where turned into pissing matches about who knows what about how every dang prehistoric culture did things or didn't do things.
He felt like he had to put a NM in front of ABO because it was claimed that what he was doing wasn't really ABO or something like that.
What a shame!
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Quickly document the first ten leOn.
PA "we have ways of making you talk" >:D
What is really bad, is that I think all of Iowa 's threads went away.
i think only the threads that he believed were offensive where hidden by the mods upon request. most of his "knapping" stuff is still there.
they also performed a query that retracted his posts from yesterday and today, because his reply in my knapping thread was hid from sight as well.
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Yes it is a shame. I have been talking to him on PM alot
trying to figure a way to make everything work without the
agitation. I thought he was cool with it all. He is a talented
very nice guy, going out of his way to educate.
I don't think speculating is a good way for us all to handle this.
Getting the true reasons can only be done by getting the scoop
from Iowa. Next best would be ask the mods.
Perhaps starting a thread asking for the info would be a better idea??
What do you all think? Thanks Zuma
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I am just now getting into knapping. I wanted to learn abo. Just got into reading Iowa's stuff.
Was going to read more today cause it's raining. Guess I slept to long. Abo or copper don't
matter to me. It's flint knapping .
Dog
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Now this really sucks to me. Even his comments on my little thread is gone.
I am not going to give up on how ever I learn to knap but I am disapPOINTed
Dog
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I am sad to hear about members getting upset to the point of leaving. Something we all should remember is that even when communicating face to face we can misinterpret another person, it's much worse using nothing but written words on the internet. People depend a great deal on body language and tonal expressions to be able to tell what another is trying to say
P.S. Everything that gets deleted goes into a special forum accessible to mods and admins
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The mods didn't do anything.
Then how does a non-mod user go about deleting a thread? I don't see that option on my threads on any of the forums I frequent as a normal user. Now the ones I am a moderator on, this is a piece of cake. Is he a mod?
But you're correct about the high-jacking. Threads get high-jacked. It's a part of life. The choice to remove something that others have invested time into should be a group decision. I don't know about the rest of you guys, however, time is something I don't seem to have a lot of.
If one chooses to not share his or her information on a thread they created, they should just edit their posts in said thread to read "deleted by me".
Also, my apologies for this thread high-jack. Once we're done discussing, I'll delete my posts regarding this matter from here.
P.S. Everything that gets deleted goes into a special forum accessible to mods and admins
yep. this is how the forums usually work. it allows the 'mods' to see what has been deleted and for what reasons.
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Great thoughts fellows.
I think it might be good to post these comments
to the forum board/boards. Perhaps
Iowa will reconsider. He was fine with it all
yesterday. Something different may be the reason?
I was hoping you all would have some idea about
a new thread. No need to delete anything here
unless you really want to. I'll start the thread.
I would appreciate all you all's comments.
This is a really great site and every one I know
respects the rules and each other.
There are problems but hopefully we can shake them out.
Thanks Zuma
I just can't figure a title.
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I tried to PM John but his Box is full.
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I never saw anything that was disparaging against Iowa. I knew from the minute Ben chimed into his thread it was going to go South. Ben has an agenda and will play nice at the beginning of a thread, but will always steer it to his agenda. Iowa had a good thing going and I hope he reconsiders coming back. I may take a whoopin for saying this but the Mods should have done more to protect the good
Members here from his crap. That's why he has been banned from several other sites.
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I never saw anything that was disparaging against Iowa. I knew from the minute Ben chimed into his thread it was going to go South. Ben has an agenda and will play nice at the beginning of a thread, but will always steer it to his agenda. Iowa had a good thing going and I hope he reconsiders coming back. I may take a whoopin for saying this but the Mods should have done more to protect the good
Members here from his crap. That's why he has been banned from several other sites.
Humm very interesting,
Thanks for the comment
Zuma
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I never saw anything that was disparaging against Iowa. I knew from the minute Ben chimed into his thread it was going to go South. Ben has an agenda and will play nice at the beginning of a thread, but will always steer it to his agenda. Iowa had a good thing going and I hope he reconsiders coming back. I may take a whoopin for saying this but the Mods should have done more to protect the good
Members here from his crap. That's why he has been banned from several other sites.
Now exactly what kind of whoopin would you like? :)
I didn't read all of Ben's posts but I did send him a pm awhile back cautioning him to be respectful in his posts. The posts I did read seemed to be respectful, although I can't say the same for some of the responses to him.
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Marc
To be clear I don't want no woopin ;)
But I would like to be informed as to who or what you found
to be disrespectful. You addressed Ben so why not spill the rest?
I don't want to make misstakes during these discussions.
Thanks Zuma