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Title: Belly Tempering ?
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on October 24, 2015, 05:46:50 pm

Again, sorry but I forgot  ;)

Is Red Oak a good candidate for belly tempering ?

How about Vine Maple ?

Thanks

Title: Re: Belly Tempering ?
Post by: PatM on October 24, 2015, 05:53:35 pm

It's not a good candidate but I seem to remember you doing it successfully anyway.
 

Title: Re: Belly Tempering ?
Post by: bubby on October 24, 2015, 07:13:22 pm

It helps all the white woods

Title: Re: Belly Tempering ?
Post by: Carson (CMB) on October 25, 2015, 11:14:11 am

Vine maple is a great candidate for belly tempering. It is so strong in tension, it cant hurt to beef up the compression.

I don't have any experience with red oak.

Title: Re: Belly Tempering ?
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on October 25, 2015, 07:53:26 pm

Quote from: PatM on October 24, 2015, 05:53:35 pm

It's not a good candidate but I seem to remember you doing it successfully anyway.

I don't remember making a tempered red oak,I know I made a bamboo backed red oak,...but who knows  ;D ;D ;D

Ok than, I'll temper the Vine maple as I try to deflex the limbs and leave the Red Oak alone  ;D

Title: Re: Belly Tempering ?
Post by: bradsmith2010 on October 25, 2015, 08:31:27 pm

I dont think it would hurt to try it :)

Title: Re: Belly Tempering ?
Post by: PatM on October 25, 2015, 08:40:24 pm

Pics are mostly gone but..
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,6246.0.html

Title: Re: Belly Tempering ?
Post by: Gordon on October 25, 2015, 08:42:11 pm

Vine maple is a good candidate for belly tempering unless it already has a lot of reflex - then I do not recommend it.

Title: Re: Belly Tempering ?
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on October 25, 2015, 08:47:59 pm

Quote from: PatM on October 25, 2015, 08:40:24 pm

Pics are mostly gone but..
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,6246.0.html

Forgot about belly tempering that bow, was this the one ?

http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/library/Tiger%20Oak?sort=3&page=1


 picked it up a couple years ago and lifted a splinter as I was shooting it  :( :(

Title: Re: Belly Tempering ?
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on October 25, 2015, 08:49:19 pm

Quote from: bradsmith2010 on October 25, 2015, 08:31:27 pm

I dont think it would hurt to try it :)

I'm gonna Rawhide back the Red Oak, so I might temper it,...I don't know, but  :-\ :-\

Title: Re: Belly Tempering ?
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on October 25, 2015, 08:50:53 pm

Quote from: Gordon on October 25, 2015, 08:42:11 pm

Vine maple is a good candidate for belly tempering unless it already has a lot of reflex - then I do not recommend it.

Gordon, I need to deflex that Vine Maple significantly before I even attempt tillering  ;) ;) ;)

Title: Re: Belly Tempering ?
Post by: PatM on October 25, 2015, 09:42:53 pm

Quote from: NOMADIC PIRATE on October 25, 2015, 08:47:59 pm

Quote from: PatM on October 25, 2015, 08:40:24 pm

Pics are mostly gone but..
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,6246.0.html

Forgot about belly tempering that bow, was this the one ?

http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/library/Tiger%20Oak?sort=3&page=1


 picked it up a couple years ago and lifted a splinter as I was shooting it  :( :(

 That's it. I remember it having a fancy fabric backing.

Title: Re: Belly Tempering ?
Post by: Gordon on October 27, 2015, 01:13:33 am

Quote

Gordon, I need to deflex that Vine Maple significantly before I even attempt tillering

Manny, check out my vine maple build-a-long. I show some techniques for dealing with highly reflexed vine maple.

Title: Re: Belly Tempering ?
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on October 27, 2015, 03:01:47 pm

 ;D ;D ;D Yeah Gordon, I checked that Thread, several times  ;D ;D

I'm afraid tho that my Bowyering skills aren't anywhere near as sharp as Yours,
and I need all the help I can get,
If I cannot deflex the stave with heat than I'll have to do the crazy tillering  ;D

Title: Re: Belly Tempering ?
Post by: Marc St Louis on October 27, 2015, 04:49:37 pm

I used to intentionally reflex wood with dry heat by as much as 10" and more.  Tillering was interesting but far from impossible