Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: cwade3085 on October 12, 2015, 07:35:26 am
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I know this has prbably been asked a time or two. and im sorry but. probably never will lol. what is everyones go to arrow shafts. or or what would be the "best" go to arrowshafts. i always thought being that shoot traditional always used cedar shafts. but have recently noticed alot of people shoot bambo/cane shafts or other kinds of wood shafts. do anything trump over the other? or one better than the others.
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hard to beat bamboo from the big box home improvement stores. tough, affordable, and they stay straight and are forgiving as to spine.
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River cane is my favorite, but I also use gray dogwood shoots, Sitka spruce, and tonkin cane
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For primitive arrows I like sourwood shoots, red osier dogwood and different canes. For other arrows I like poplar, Port Orford cedar, Sitka spruce and Douglas fir.
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I like parallel turned shafts anymore. I prefer to spend my time working on bows rather.
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Natural shoot and cane shafts are my favorites. They have a natural taper so that are generally very spine tolerant. I use Chinese privet, dogwood, arrowood viburnum, some sourwood, and of course River cane and Japanese arrow bamboo.
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thanks guys
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wish i could find a nice section of hickory. if i had hickory accessible id split it out and make shafts. but what i have is shoots lol. they work. but take a lot of straightening. i do have willow available. was thinking on drying a big section of trunk out. i read itll make decent shafts but it warps as well. shoot shafts are easy to make. so its kind of a toss up if the willow will need straightening periodically anyhow. Tony
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Rat are you in Ohio like your profile indicates? If so, you should be able to find hickory at any of your local hardwood mills. If you're looking for a 36" flawless log and not dimensional lumber, I'm sure I can find one with a little searching. You'd just have to come up to Erie to pick it up. Both of the properties my family hunt on are being logged this winter. I've seen big hickory trees in both spots. Those loggers leave all kinds of useful wood laying around.
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I wish i had cane growing near me. I have been using rosehip shoots. Seem to be tough and easy to straighten.
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I admire a good cane arrow, but the lately I have gone back to Port Orford Cedar.
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Tonkin bamboo for me.
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I didn't read all the replies, but I agree w/ PatB and Mullet. Cane is hard to beat, osier makes a killer arrow that is heavy. I also use Multafloral rose and hazel, both lighter shafts. Have a gooder, dp
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Dakota Kid, thanks for the offer. i can probly find some hickory if i look hard. found a tree not that long ago except it wasnt what i wanted for a bow. so i ended up cutting a nice straight piece of log . about 30 in. i need to split it out. but i want to make blunts like in Hamms encyclopedia of NA bows arrows and quivers of the eastern ...out of it.Tony
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hill cane or river cane
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Im going to steal this for a half a second. How thick a piece of rose hip do you think youd need to spine about fifty pounds. Ive only ever shot my arrows out of a thirty lb bow for fear of them snapping and scuring my hand
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With cane, sourwood shoots and red osier 3/8" at the point and 5/16" at the nock on a 30" arrow will give you an arrow that can be from 45# to over 60#. A slight adjustment might be necessary.
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PatB is the 3/8 and 5/16 with bark on when your collecting them in woods or is that bark off dried shafts?
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I sometimes use a 3/8" open end wrench as a guide for cutting shoot shafts and cane. Even if I cut larger I'll use a thumb plane to reduce it to size. Shafts are probably just under 3/8" at the point end.
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I like dog wood shoots. Almost finished 8 sourwood (down to stain) I love you can been them with out heat. Lot lighter than dog wood. Not nearly a s stiff.
Around here I have 2 kinds of viburm. wild rose,apple.hickery,popular cherry. I've made arrows from each. I've also made arrow from river cain
I learned of alternet dog wood. Around here it's the best.
Couple years ago I started building shoot arrows a little differently. Trying to save time. First of only cut shots that have a natural been the last inchs. Only cut shoots that do'nt have this been. You can take it out but it's not easy.
Next I look for them big 1/2 inch or bigger. You can rasp the high spots off keep rasping it down to now if you have any beens it be those long beens easy to take out.
Next keep sanding of high spots untill I have a straight tapered shaff.
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thanks for ya'lls input....
How about throughts on Ash for arrows, i have a handfull of Ash trees that need to come down this fall. i am going to try to get atleast 1 bow stave from them. a guy i was talking to about it said to make a few arrows out of them too. how would i go about doing that? make 1/2"x1/2" x 30"+ staves? does anyone have any expierence doing this and is it worth the time and effort? is their an easy way to quickly turn them down?