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Main Discussion Area => Flintknapping => Topic started by: Tracker0721 on September 17, 2015, 12:09:48 pm

Title: Pics or it didn't happen eh?
Post by: Tracker0721 on September 17, 2015, 12:09:48 pm: Well it happened again. Here it is! A turtle to a point. A broken point, 4th one of the day. >:(

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w44/Dylan_Halbach/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsjqhvnnht.jpg) (http://s173.photobucket.com/user/Dylan_Halbach/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsjqhvnnht.jpg.html)

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w44/Dylan_Halbach/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsdgx4wbab.jpg) (http://s173.photobucket.com/user/Dylan_Halbach/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsdgx4wbab.jpg.html)

Started my bopping with some pretty steep angles with flat side up shooting to takeout the mountain.

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w44/Dylan_Halbach/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsd4yui4cv.jpg) (http://s173.photobucket.com/user/Dylan_Halbach/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsd4yui4cv.jpg.html)

Too steep of an angle and it snapped in half.

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w44/Dylan_Halbach/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsnr0tj5fo.jpg) (http://s173.photobucket.com/user/Dylan_Halbach/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsnr0tj5fo.jpg.html)

Big end thickness

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w44/Dylan_Halbach/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpszinourlv.jpg) (http://s173.photobucket.com/user/Dylan_Halbach/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpszinourlv.jpg.html)

And after some pressure flaking on that bigger half I loaded too much pressure with not nearly enough support.

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w44/Dylan_Halbach/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsazxjcevn.jpg) (http://s173.photobucket.com/user/Dylan_Halbach/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsazxjcevn.jpg.html)

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w44/Dylan_Halbach/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsft4bdxcc.jpg) (http://s173.photobucket.com/user/Dylan_Halbach/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsft4bdxcc.jpg.html)

Huge thanks to Patrick for teaching me about photo bucket
Title: Re: Pics or it didn't happen eh?
Post by: Dalton Knapper on September 17, 2015, 12:25:55 pm: I've done pretty similar reduction. If you cock it up at a steep angle, as you have said, you can shoot flakes over the top of "the hill."

And I have broken many in two as well...too many!
Title: Re: Pics or it didn't happen eh?
Post by: Stringman on September 17, 2015, 01:13:43 pm: Well, that's just frustrating. . .

No magic words for ya, Dylan. Just keep after it. Maybe reevaluate the way your holding the point in your hand. Sometimes I'm applying pressure I didn't realize, other times it's just a matter of not hitting my mark, and occasionally it's just a fault in the stone.

When using an ishi stick it's easy to snap a point if your palm pad is not stiff enough (some don't even use a pad, :-\ )
Title: Re: Pics or it didn't happen eh?
Post by: Zuma on September 17, 2015, 01:29:54 pm: I am no expert but you could try this---
Loose this lower side.
Abrade some of the patina for a good bite with
a deer antler billet or small copper bopper.
Title: Re: Pics or it didn't happen eh?
Post by: Zuma on September 17, 2015, 01:38:20 pm: Stiffen your platforms with a fine abrader,
then grind your dominate ridges as well.
If your strikes are right you should be fairly
thin or at least semi bifacial. ???
Zuma
Title: Re: Pics or it didn't happen eh?
Post by: Tracker0721 on September 17, 2015, 02:30:03 pm: It's been below 40 degrees most morning so I'm starting to wonder if my rock has some freeze cracks. Most of my pressure flaking is done on a pad with a wood base and slotted foam on top. And those gloves are new, bought em after I started shooting over flakes into my hand. Still usually knap barefoot and in shorts if the weather is 50+ degrees.
Title: Re: Pics or it didn't happen eh?
Post by: Zuma on September 19, 2015, 05:31:10 pm: Gettin colder here too >:D
From a simple little pressure
flake err break.
Zuma
Title: Re: Pics or it didn't happen eh?
Post by: lebhuntfish on September 19, 2015, 09:04:51 pm: You're welcome Dylan! Anytime!

You sure are breaking a lot of rock. I can't wait to get those points you're making. Especially after all the effort you are putting in them!
Patrick