Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => English Warbow => Topic started by: Kviljo on February 09, 2008, 11:00:38 pm
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New warbow. 95# @ 30". 76,5" ntn. 41x32mm at the grip. Sidenocks modeled after the one preserved. Fast grown norwegian yew.
(http://kviljo.no/bue/95.jpg)
...and for those of us who are into making replicas... ...this is as close as I will get without seeing the thing live I think. - apart from the extra notch for the stringer.
(http://kviljo.no/bue/95b.jpg)
(http://www.scortonarrow.com/forum_pics/hornnock01.jpg)
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KV, I like it, replicas always have a special place with me when they are truly in character such as yours veis. I especialy like the tiller you put on that bow. Have you tried it out yet? Steve
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Thanks :)
Yep, tried it today, but I found out it's a bit too heavy for me to shoot more than a few shots. It shoots very well though with effectively only 1/2" stringfollow. So I shot my other new bow instead. It's birch/walnut and draws 70# @ 28". Glued in about 2" reflex, and it has kept about a 1/2" of it, even though it is 82" long. It too is based on a medieval artefact - a norwegian version of the laminated saami/Finno-Ugrian/asiatic to-wood-bows.
(http://kviljo.no/bue/toved/a.jpg)
(http://kviljo.no/bue/toved/b.jpg)
(http://kviljo.no/bue/toved/d.jpg)
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Very nice bow! Did you try to follow the dimensions of the mary Rose bows?
The nock looks very close to the original. Having made it, any thoughts on why the original is that shape?
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Yep, it follows basic MR-specs, although I made it a little thinner because the stave was so marginal.
Haven't thought about why the nock is shaped the way it is. It seems to follow the tradition though, as almost all longbows, from the Nydam- to the MR-finds have sidenocks.
I bet there was a variety of hornnock-shapes back then too though.
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Initially I thought the handle was a bit stiff, but there's some reflex at that point, isn't there? So in effect it's fairly circular.
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Yep, it's got a bit of reflex at the handle. I tillered it from straight lines drawn on the side of it, and made sure it bends progressively more from the grip to the tips.
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Nice bow! Hows it shoot?
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Pretty impressive bow kviljo. Justin
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Any bow, especially a heavy one is easier to string if you can get the horn nocks to run flush into the wood. That's why we make them that way, not just because it looks more elegant.
The only time I got injured with a heavy bow, it was when I was stringing one and stalled at the nock, like tripping on a kerb stone...
Rod.
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Yep, I could probably make the transtition a bit more even, and still be faithful to the original. But I won't ;D
Mostly because I use a selftightening loop with sidenocks, that make it a bit more cumbersome to string anyway, because I like to make sure the string has settled well into the slot and that it is lined up.
On a victorian nock however... :)
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Brilliant nock that - puts my attempts to shame
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Not really, because there must have been a lot of variation to these. But I must admit that it came out closer to the original than I first thought.
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Looks very stiff & non-bending in the handle, for a warbow?
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Check out the unbraced pic - the stave has quite a bit setback in the handle :)
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What's the dark patch about 15 cm from the handle on the right limb? If that's a knot, you've done extremely well not to let it break.
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Yep, it's a knot. That one have had me worrying a bit, but it seems to be just fine.
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Nice Bow but look at the house in the background 8)
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Great bow kviljo! Don't quite know how to say this but that's a big one - don't know anything about ELB's ;D. Love your countryside, kind of alien to me but very interesting - you should post a few more pic's of it. What kind of trees are those?
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Thanks :)
I might be wrong, but the one the bows are leaning against, is beech. But it is of course a protected area, because of the church.
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Cool - thanks..
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Is that the Borgund stavekirke? Also very nice bows!
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Nope, it's Fantoft Stavkirke/stave chuch.
It's about as cool as a church can get, hehe :)
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nice bow!
hope you dont mind me bringing up this old topic, but i got a question:
whats a sidenock?
are the horn nocks of your bow only cut at one side of the nock?
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or are they symmetrical?
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I can answer that question no problem ;-)
As I have recently created a web page with all the info I have on sidenocks as there doesn't seem to be much info about them out there
see: http://www.alanesq.com/sidenock.htm (http://www.alanesq.com/sidenock.htm)
btw - yes, they only have a slot on one side of the nock
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Hi, Alan!
Nice site you put up there. What about the third picture on it, the one showing bow tips in gray scale? Are you sure that it shows yew bows found on the Mary Rose?
Cheers,
Daniel
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now you mention it the growth rings dont look like Mary Rose yew ? ?
not sure where I got that picture from, - I will see if I can find a different one
although if they arn't Mary Rose bows I would be interested to know what they are as they also have side nocks
thanks
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Hi, Alan!
Nice site you put up there. What about the third picture on it, the one showing bow tips in gray scale? Are you sure that it shows yew bows found on the Mary Rose?
Cheers,
Daniel
Daniel/Alan,
I think the image is from Hardy's 'Longbow'. Not all of the MR bows had really tight grain and it is theorised that some may have been indigenous yew. Steve Stratton may be able to tell you more.
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thanks alan!
i didnt know about the mary rose bows having sidenocks.
cool page :)