Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: bowandarrow473 on August 19, 2015, 05:16:32 pm
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I had some spare deer antlers lying around and thought, "why dont I try and make some overlays out of these", I have never tryed using antler as an overlay and was wondering, what are its glueing properties? how do I best flatten the side of the horn that will be glued to the bow?
here are some pics if that helps.
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A stationary belt sander works like a treat for this job, ...but you may want to plug your nasal passages first!
...cause it will STINK UP the joint!
OneBow
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I put a tine in the vice and saw it in half lengthwise with a bone saw. The I use the stationary belt sander to flatten the pieces.
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Seeing as how I dont have a bone saw nor a sationary belt sander, would a hacksaw and some 60 grit sandpaper do the trick? could I use tb3 on the overlays or do I have to use something else?
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I also use a beltsander but when I didn't have one I just carefully cut it in half and cleaned it up with a sanding block. Never used anything but gel superglue to put it on.
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Once cut open and the inside is exposed, and flattened to your liking, you will have better luck if you seal the pithy inner core w super glue, let it dry, and then glue to the bow. Russ
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Would it be possible to do this sealing with tb3 and glue to the bow with the same?
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Would it be possible to do this sealing with tb3 and glue to the bow with the same?
You could try it and let us know. I've never seen anyone do it that way, but I'd think it would not be the best idea. I'm told that TB3 never truly hardens up completely and that it can stretch or slip some. Since you have so much pressure against so little of a glued surface, it could prove problematic, ...but I won't say impossible.
I'd suggest either a good quality gel type CA glue or an epoxy type glue.
OneBow
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A hacksaw and sand paper will do the trick. just make sure the antler and bow are flush before gluing them together. I have used tb3 to glue up antler tip over lays this way and it worked fine for me.
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I just went outside and flattened the horn out, the hacksaw and sandpaper worked well, thanks for the replies, I will be gluing them to the bow in a few weeks.
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I reverse wrap duct tap over a few fingers and stick the antler, horn or wood to it. It wont move, slide or go flying that way. I always use super glue for horn or antler. Two reasons. It fills the pithy center like big Russ mentioned, and because it flows unlike TB3. Also, TB3 will creep and super glue wont. Nobody likes a creep. A fella on another site can watch his hickory back creep over the osage core, then back again after he un-braces it. Yeesh...
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I reverse wrap duct tap over a few fingers and stick the antler, horn or wood to it. It wont move, slide or go flying that way. I always use super glue for horn or antler. Two reasons. It fills the pithy center like big Russ mentioned, and because it flows unlike TB3. Also, TB3 will creep and super glue wont. Nobody likes a creep. A fella on another site can watch his hickory back creep over the osage core, then back again after he un-braces it. Yeesh...
Wow Chris that would be something to experience , never seen that but again I've always used super glue.....
DBar
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I've only used TBIII with good luck. I've never noticed any pith to the antlers I've cut, they've all been solid. I've got a Wyoming saw with a bone blade, man it eats through antler so much easier than a hacksaw.
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I could not see any pith to my antlers either, they were solid the whole way. Thanks for the replies guys I appreciate it.
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The pith starts father towards the base. The first 2-5" of tip is usually solid.
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You know when you're in the dentist's chair and the dentist starts to drill out one of your molars and you swear you can smell your teeth burning? That's what your shop's going to smell like when you sand those antlers down! From experience, DO NOT let the wife in your shop for days, or she won't let you use antler again!
Yeah, the belt sander is the best bet... Antler is also VERY porous, so I would recommend one of those epoxy squirt tubes that you can get at Lowe's to glue the thing up. I think Loctite makes a good one for around 6 bucks. Just rough up the wood a bit and lightly clamp - no heat, no mess, no fuss.
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Any hand saw works a treat on antler, the real trick is holding it in a vice to cut it. I usually use a Coping Saw for work like this as the not-too-aggressive teeth don't grab or skip when you start the cut. If you have a Shinto rasp then that is the best tool I have come across to smooth it over, and if you haven't got one then get one, they are AMAZING. :)
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I just cut it on my bandsaw and then hot glue a stick to it so its easy to hold beltsanding it
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I just use my fingers and file my nails and fingerprints off at the same time :o :P