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Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: Marc St Louis on August 06, 2015, 07:48:04 pm

Title: Caterpillar
Post by: Marc St Louis on August 06, 2015, 07:48:04 pm
I went outside the other day and saw this on the ground.  I've seen Green Caterpillars before but nothing this size.  This thing was fully 1/2" in diameter and at least 3" long when on the move
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: sleek on August 06, 2015, 08:17:47 pm
Luna?
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: DC on August 06, 2015, 08:44:29 pm
I hope you built a fence around it until you find out what it is. I could be the first of some new God-awful bug to invade the country. :)
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: Danzn Bar on August 06, 2015, 08:47:33 pm
Sleek.....I believe your right...Luna moth
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: Marc St Louis on August 06, 2015, 09:04:42 pm
No I don't think it is the Luna Moth.  I did a search and it looks more like the Banded Sphinx.  Here's another pic

Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: JoJoDapyro on August 06, 2015, 11:40:17 pm
Looks like a tomato worm to me! Sphinx moth.
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: Eric Krewson on August 06, 2015, 11:46:34 pm
I thought the deer were eating my tomato plants, I found one of those caterpillars on the plant so I knew it wasn't a deer.
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: JacksonCash on August 07, 2015, 12:18:26 am
Can confirm, that caterpillar is not a deer.
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: sleek on August 07, 2015, 12:48:27 am
Bass bait?
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: Marc St Louis on August 07, 2015, 08:43:03 am
Curious.  I've never seen anything eat Tomatoes up here
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Post by: koan on August 07, 2015, 10:07:52 am
Yep....tomato eatin machine right there! Hard to see on the plant but they leave unmistakable scat trail, lol.... Brian
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on August 07, 2015, 10:24:16 am
They will devour a mater plant in short order. Dad used to walk around the garden with two fist sized rocks. He'd just smash them between the rocks and move along. I loved it when I was 5!
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: JoJoDapyro on August 07, 2015, 10:51:03 am
They sell them at pet stores as reptile food as well. I didn't know what they turned into until about a year ago. They get quite big.
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: caveman2533 on August 07, 2015, 11:12:30 am
We used to call them tobacco worms as we would find them on the tobacco stalks, when topping the tobacco in the evening dusk lite the moths would come out and fly around made you duck once or twice.  Big moth's, we would dare each other to bite the heads of the caterpillars. Tasted like tobacco.
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: Marc St Louis on August 07, 2015, 11:51:23 am
To clarify, Slugs will eat Tomatoes but only the fruit, the plant itself is safe.
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: Chief RID on August 07, 2015, 12:21:42 pm
I believe that is the tobacco hornworm. The tomato hornworm is a little different but their is not a dimes difference between them. Same in most ways but a difference in 5 spots as compared to 6 on the adult. Both will eat your tomato plants the same.
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: Marc St Louis on August 07, 2015, 12:28:15 pm
This one didn't have any spots at all.
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: Chief RID on August 07, 2015, 12:33:17 pm
The spots are on the adult. Their are differences in the worm also. I personally think the tomato hornworm is much more striking in appearance.
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: mullet on August 07, 2015, 07:37:12 pm
Yep everybody already said it is a plant eating machine. We have another one down here that looks just like it with horns that will light your butt up if you rub against it. We call them Saddlebacks.
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: Marc St Louis on August 07, 2015, 08:32:16 pm
I looked up both of those caterpillars and this one did not look quite like them.  It was smooth from one end to the other with no horn.  The Green variation of the Banded Sphinx is more like what it looked like but still not quite the same
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: Danzn Bar on August 07, 2015, 08:41:04 pm
Marc...
The more I look at it ..it looks like a bastard banded Sphinx................
DBar
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: sleek on August 08, 2015, 12:02:21 am
Oh boy, that bastard variety is bad news. Man I tell ya, watch out for them!
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: Chief RID on August 08, 2015, 01:07:55 am
I am not that familiar with the life cycle but it could be pupating. I could not see the legs but it had that look to me. Inmature insects do some weird stuff and that one does go in the ground to spend the winter. that stage would look different.
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: stickbender on August 08, 2015, 02:17:23 am

     Lift either foot, above caterpillar, bring foot down, quickly, and with force.  If done properly, there will be a green, slime pile.  No Caterpillar.   Safe plants.  Oh, by the way, tomato plants contain an alkali poison.  Which is why for a long time, people thought tomatoes were poisonous.  Just the plant, not the fruit.  Those little pillars, make good fish bait. 
And Eddy is absolute correct about those saddle backs!  When I was a kid, a neighbor had a big Arica palm, Betal palm if you wish, anyway, it was loaded with them!  Their sting, is like a hot wire being pressed against you!  A Bic lighter is great for them. ;)  A bar b que lighter is even better! 8)

                                   Wayne
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: Marc St Louis on August 08, 2015, 09:00:59 am
It did look like it was trying to burrow underground.

I'm unwilling to kill anything that isn't trying to feed on me or I'm not willing to eat.
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: mullet on August 08, 2015, 09:43:09 am
If you eat it, Marc, cook crispy with garlic and sprinkle a little of lime juice.
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: bubbles on August 08, 2015, 02:14:00 pm
I knew them as tomatoes horn worms. Did it have a spike on its head? Or is this a different one?
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Post by: DC on August 08, 2015, 03:01:16 pm
If you eat it, Marc, cook crispy with garlic and sprinkle a little of lime juice.

Lots and lots of garlic :P :P
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: Marc St Louis on August 09, 2015, 09:38:42 am
If you eat it, Marc, cook crispy with garlic and sprinkle a little of lime juice.

That's ok Eddie.  As I said " I'm not willing to eat".  I tell you what though, I'll cook it up and send it down to you  :)
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: mullet on August 09, 2015, 05:14:31 pm
Not sure if it will clear Customs. ;D
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: Marc St Louis on August 10, 2015, 02:04:55 pm
I'll just declare it as "Tasty Treats"  ;)
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: mullet on August 10, 2015, 08:16:42 pm
Send it on, Brother, I'm sure you haven't heard about the June Bug story from the Classic 8)
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: Marc St Louis on August 11, 2015, 10:23:54 am
I'm sure I have Eddie.  I have my own stories but I'll keep those to myself  ;)
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: mullet on August 12, 2015, 09:12:34 pm
Save it in the fridge, just was told this morning I'm heading to Canada for a few days. I don't know which Providence yet. Probably Alberta, though.
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: osage outlaw on August 12, 2015, 10:01:02 pm
I almost bumped into this guy today.  Glad I noticed it first.  Some of the worst stings I've ever had were from caterpillars.  This one looks particularly painful.  I relocated him a safe distance away.


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Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: Pat B on August 12, 2015, 11:24:59 pm
That sucker just looks mean!
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: Marc St Louis on August 13, 2015, 09:10:15 am
I am so glad we don't have stuff like that up here
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: mullet on August 13, 2015, 09:17:32 am

looks like our green ones, and boy do they hurt.
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: JoJoDapyro on August 13, 2015, 11:56:53 am
What does that thing grow into?
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: osage outlaw on August 13, 2015, 12:18:45 pm
Question mark butterfly

http://entnemdept.ufl.edu/creatures/bfly/bfly2/question_mark.htm
Title: Re: Caterpillar
Post by: Chief RID on August 13, 2015, 03:11:08 pm
I am not sure but probably a pretty normal looking moth.