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Title: First Bow, could use some critique on the tiller
Post by: Grizman on May 28, 2015, 12:38:51 am
Hello all, great forum, have learned so much here. I will try to post pics of this bow. Pacific Yew from here on Vancouver Island, 69 1/2" N to N, pulling 42# at 28", and coming in just a bit over 15 ounces. Challenging stick, driving me to drinking... Anyway, think i'm down to the final strokes but looks a bit stiff here and there still...?? will try to add a pic or two.

Cheers
Title: Re: First Bow, could use some critique on the tiller
Post by: Pago on May 28, 2015, 01:50:06 am
Looks well done to me.  Congrats.
Title: Re: First Bow, could use some critique on the tiller
Post by: mikekeswick on May 28, 2015, 02:06:57 am
Without seeing in unbraced it's hard to say for sure but first impressions are good! How does it shoot in the hand and also how does it look drawn by hand(it will be a little different than when drawn on the tree)?
Title: Re: First Bow, could use some critique on the tiller
Post by: Del the cat on May 28, 2015, 03:21:23 am
Right limb looks a hint stiffer, is that the lower limb?
A couple of slight wiggles are presumably there in the unbraced bow.
Looking good. To late to do much other than a tiny bit of fiddling and fettling.
Del
Title: Re: First Bow, could use some critique on the tiller
Post by: Benedikt on May 28, 2015, 05:29:10 am
Looks a little stiff to me on the right of the middle.
Also, its a little weak about 5" from the tip on the left limb.

But i need to admit: If my first bow had been like this, i would have been veeeery proud of myself :D
Nice work!
Title: Re: First Bow, could use some critique on the tiller
Post by: Aaron H on May 28, 2015, 07:39:26 am
There are some slight adjustments to be made, but overall you did a very good job for your first bow.  That's something to be proud of right there
Title: Re: First Bow, could use some critique on the tiller
Post by: George Tsoukalas on May 28, 2015, 08:30:31 am
Congratulations! Very nice. I like the last 6 inches a little stiffer. Makes for a smoother draw. Jawge
Title: Re: First Bow, could use some critique on the tiller
Post by: Eric Krewson on May 28, 2015, 09:34:20 am
The left tip is a little too bendy, the right fade is a little too stiff.
Title: Re: First Bow, could use some critique on the tiller
Post by: Pappy on May 28, 2015, 10:37:04 am
Looks pretty good to me, probably a little of what has been suggested but if it were me I would shoot it a bit and check again before moving on depending on how close I was to draw length and weight I wanted.  :)
  Pappy
Title: Re: First Bow, could use some critique on the tiller
Post by: Grizman on May 28, 2015, 01:28:16 pm
Thanks for the look folks, appreciate the comments. I will do some tweaking after shooting a bit more. I noted a very slight hand shock on some shots but I am using some 415 grain arrows right at the moment. Sorry for the double pic's, trying to get the attachment thing figured out better, I will add a couple more photos. You will notice I have some pencil lines drawn on the edges, used string and light to trace a straight shadow line, has helped quite a bit. Also I sometimes get right up beside the bow while pulling on the string and eyeball down the length which seems to help for some reason...? The pic's have a piece of tape on the end E was hoping to make the top as it offers a better string placement at the handle, might have to pike the bottom a bit to stiffen it up.

Cheers
Title: Re: First Bow, could use some critique on the tiller
Post by: Grizman on May 28, 2015, 01:33:16 pm
Try some more pics
Title: Re: First Bow, could use some critique on the tiller
Post by: Del the cat on May 28, 2015, 02:25:11 pm
Looks good to me :)
Del
Title: Re: First Bow, could use some critique on the tiller
Post by: Onebowonder on May 28, 2015, 03:29:08 pm
I like!  How epoch to be able to have your FIRST BOW be a yew bow.  The stuff is something of a rarity here in the Osage infested Ozarks, ...but you've certainly done this piece credit.

OneBow
Title: Re: First Bow, could use some critique on the tiller
Post by: George Tsoukalas on May 28, 2015, 04:35:56 pm
Changed my mind. Looks great!

Hand shock... Try scraping that stronger limb a few times. Perhaps you could change the arrow pass to stiffen up the other limb by moving it toward the weak limb... like a 1/4 to 1/2... a little at a time... instead. Might improve the shock.

Another possibility is turn it around.

Jawge
Title: Re: First Bow, could use some critique on the tiller
Post by: tattoo dave on May 28, 2015, 08:08:28 pm
Looks like a good number one! Shoot the heck out of it, and go make another ;D! And welcome to PA!

Tattoo Dave
Title: Re: First Bow, could use some critique on the tiller
Post by: Grizman on May 28, 2015, 08:45:54 pm
Well thanks to all of you for your input, very nice to have those experienced eyes having a look see. And yes we are blessed here with some nice Yew, the bow in the pic's is 65 to 68 rings per inch, got another 4 staves dried and ready to go. Split them out of logs so they have some character to them, although, this character wood thing just about finished me. Got her oiled up now and will throw on a quick handle to shoot her in more. Thanks again everyone, I am humbled...
Cheers
Title: Re: First Bow, could use some critique on the tiller
Post by: Pappy on May 29, 2015, 04:42:39 am
Looks fine,shoot and enjoy. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: First Bow, could use some critique on the tiller
Post by: Del the cat on May 29, 2015, 04:49:07 am
Hand shock?
Are the tips a tad heavy? At that draw weight the tips can go down to pencil size with a full horn nock (or overlay) and taper down from the last 5" or so.
Even 100# warbows have tips about 10-12mm round. The Mary Rose bows were only 1/2" at the base of the horn nock.
nicely taperd tips look good too, I often see ELBs where it looks like someone has jsut whittled down the last inch or so and stuck on a gob of horn >:(
Del
Title: Re: First Bow, could use some critique on the tiller
Post by: Eric Krewson on May 29, 2015, 09:45:29 am
Looks mighty good now.
Title: Re: First Bow, could use some critique on the tiller
Post by: Grizman on May 29, 2015, 10:59:49 am
Del, I measured the tips, top one 5" from string nock groove its 17mm wide x 13mm thick tapering to 12mm wide x 12mm thick at the nock. Bottom tip at 5" is 17mm wide x 14.5mm thick tapering to 12.5mm wide x 13 mm thick. So your saying I could finesse these down some and erase any trace of handshock. I was also thinking i might heat them and flip them a bit to get my poundage up a couple of pounds. Would i do this after tapering them or before?

Cheers
Title: Re: First Bow, could use some critique on the tiller
Post by: Josh B on May 29, 2015, 11:39:24 am
Tiller looks really good to me.  Flipping the tips on an Elb is a risky endeavor.  You could run into some stability issues with the narrow profile.  Josh