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Title: RD tiller check
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on March 09, 2015, 11:48:28 am
How is this looking so far? Be honest.  :)

Added unbraced pic -

*please note this is just for fun and chuckles, and to prove anybody can go from horrible to ok if they really want to.*





Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: blackhawk on March 09, 2015, 11:51:38 am
Perfect!!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on March 09, 2015, 12:15:03 pm
That is from 2009-2010. That is an RD BBO, believe it or not! It never did break, just goes to show what it will take. That tiller is as ugly as they get. Its hard for me to understand now how I couldn't see it then.
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: Onebowonder on March 09, 2015, 12:16:02 pm
Is that a barn door hinge or a bow?  I guess it really depends on what you intend to make...

OneBow

P.S. - I thought you were the 'good' Chris?
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on March 09, 2015, 12:19:11 pm
I had to start somewhere man. And that somewhere didn't last long! That is hard to look at.
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: rps3 on March 09, 2015, 12:20:46 pm
I need to see an unbraced pic.
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on March 09, 2015, 12:26:19 pm
Funny Bobert! Ill get you one..;)

Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: rps3 on March 09, 2015, 12:34:23 pm
Nice. I bet you have shortened up the long string since then too.
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on March 09, 2015, 12:50:22 pm
No tree, not even the same shop, no long string and no boo. Other than that, its all the same man.
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: Pat B on March 09, 2015, 12:53:00 pm
That looks exactly like the R/D bows I've tried to build.  ;D
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: alwayslookin on March 09, 2015, 01:09:10 pm
OK I was confused and was thinking it had to be a joke :o
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: Roy on March 09, 2015, 01:20:10 pm
Pretty much looks like your average bow you make Pearly boy:)
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on March 09, 2015, 01:37:12 pm
You might even remember that pic Roybert, Im sure I was consulting you on that mess. Poor guy!
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: osage outlaw on March 09, 2015, 02:15:00 pm
Nice grid  ;D
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: Buckeye Guy on March 09, 2015, 02:24:09 pm
Shows what some decent material can stand up to
also what bows can do to us, they have away of changing us for sure !
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: okie64 on March 09, 2015, 02:25:13 pm
You need a tad more bend at the fades, other than that looks good. ;)
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on March 09, 2015, 02:39:23 pm
Thanks buddy, that's what I see to!
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: GB on March 09, 2015, 02:44:59 pm
I'm thinking a couple of scrapes mid limb?
Thanks for posting this Chris; gives me hope that my tillering skills will improve.  Yours certainly have. :)
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: CrazyHorse1969 on March 09, 2015, 02:49:15 pm
You need a tad more bend at the fades, other than that looks good. ;)

Now that my eye for tillering is getting a wee bit keener, I agree.
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: gutpile on March 09, 2015, 02:53:44 pm
I was gonna say bending too much right out of fades and both limbs are stiff mid limb... I like to leave my tips a bit stiff....gut
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on March 09, 2015, 02:55:08 pm
Its horrible from fade to tip on both limbs gut! Its ashes now, has been for years.
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: bow101 on March 09, 2015, 03:20:10 pm
I don't know if this helps or not, I know its not right on but close.  ::)  Its an R/D laminate, it looks like one limb is longer but not its the angle of the photo.
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: missilemaster on March 09, 2015, 03:28:31 pm
Bending WAY too much at the fades! :o
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: Badly Bent on March 09, 2015, 08:50:37 pm
Ya nailed buddy!!! ::)
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: Mike Joe on March 09, 2015, 09:11:08 pm
I got a good laugh out of this thread Pearl Drums!  ;D ;D It definitely makes me feel a bit better about my own bows. It's easy to forget that all of you had to start as beginners too.
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: bubby on March 09, 2015, 09:26:52 pm
This thread reminds me, i have a few old pics to delete ::)
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: bubbles on March 10, 2015, 12:56:27 am
No! Post 'em!  There should be a thread where all the best guys post their embarrassing  newbie tillering pics. i would enjoy it.  :)
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: paco664 on March 10, 2015, 01:18:12 am
I know that photo made me feel better. ..
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: Pappy on March 10, 2015, 05:51:12 am
Prefect to me. ;) :) :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: Roy on March 10, 2015, 10:11:45 am
I'm still trying to fugger out these Z splices:)
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on March 10, 2015, 10:13:40 am
Dry heat will take care of that Roybert Redford. Just be sure its done before glue up.
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: Stringman on March 10, 2015, 10:26:14 am
Good one, Chris. I was cringing for about 3 seconds, then I started reading!  >:D

Roy I think you're using the wrong ends. Butt the other ends together then rawhide back it. Should be fine. ::) ;D
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: Blaflair2 on March 10, 2015, 10:53:45 am
Lol Roy!

Pearly, glad ya shared man! Makes me have hope for my terrible skills  :embarassed:
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: Pappy on March 10, 2015, 11:09:53 am
Could be the Coors light Roy, try Miller lite that should do it. ;) :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: osage outlaw on March 10, 2015, 01:53:25 pm
You making yourself a new cane Roy?
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: missilemaster on March 10, 2015, 02:00:00 pm
Hey Roy that brown bottle may have something to do with that, not saying, just saying!
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: Roy on March 10, 2015, 02:03:51 pm
That brown bottle was empty. Well so were a few others:)
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: DC on March 10, 2015, 02:08:00 pm
I always say I was using it for burnishing ;D ;D
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: DC on March 10, 2015, 02:19:59 pm
At the risk of exposing my ignorance can we just run over what is SO ugly(your words ;) ) about this tiller. Might as well learn something today. I see the hinge on the right fade. If the hinge wasn't there it looks like the limbs would be fairly equal. Being an R/D, isn't it going to look like it's bending too much in the fades. The limbs will look straighter on an R/D also, wouldn't they?
Thanks
Don
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: Jodocus on March 10, 2015, 02:27:34 pm
You should have let it go on a while. I was staring at it, thinking my eyes must play tricks on me cause that looks so crappy and I know you can tiller. I was almost blaming it on my lack of experience with RDs...
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: Blaflair2 on March 10, 2015, 02:42:44 pm
DC, for the amount of reflex in the bow they should still be slightly elyptical. From what I think anyway. The sucker is bending straight outta the fades and not much elsewhere. I may be wrong as I'm no expert. If I am plz say so. I'd like to learn
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on March 10, 2015, 02:44:07 pm
At the risk of exposing my ignorance can we just run over what is SO ugly(your words ;) ) about this tiller. Might as well learn something today. I see the hinge on the right fade. If the hinge wasn't there it looks like the limbs would be fairly equal. Being an R/D, isn't it going to look like it's bending too much in the fades. The limbs will look straighter on an R/D also, wouldn't they?
Thanks
Don

If I had say 12" of sharp reflex mid limb out, then maybe it would appear somewhat flat after they uncurled at full draw. That POS isn't bending anywhere except the first 3"! With that shape unbraced, it should look very flat bow like with slightly stiff tips.
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: rossfactor on March 10, 2015, 02:57:24 pm
It's fun to look in the way back machine....

Here's a link to a Jatoba bow I made in 2008...

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g124/rossfactor/tiller28instiffspot1.jpg)

And this is scary.... I think this is '07 or something.  Ouch! Way over 90 deg.  Maybe Osage is king after all.... (chortle).

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g124/rossfactor/IMG_2774.jpg)

Gabe

Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: DC on March 10, 2015, 03:07:54 pm
If I had say 12" of sharp reflex mid limb out, then maybe it would appear somewhat flat after they uncurled at full draw. That POS isn't bending anywhere except the first 3"! With that shape unbraced, it should look very flat bow like with slightly stiff tips.

Thanks PD
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: Chief RID on March 10, 2015, 03:18:55 pm
Thanks for the look back PD. Roy the splice is priceless. Ross, I bet the thing is still shooting darts.
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: Blaflair2 on March 10, 2015, 03:24:37 pm
Ross, I made a 51" Osage bow my first go. Scraped it with a razor blade  :-\ 82#@28" I'm glad she didn't blow on me. Still got it. Haven't finished it yet lol. Just gotta round one tip. But it's almost like why bother?
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: vinemaplebows on March 10, 2015, 08:58:44 pm
PD,

           That looks like the right tiller, but I always thought those thiongs looked wierd tillered sop close to the fades.
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: Sidewinder on March 11, 2015, 01:09:26 am
You had me going for a sec or two. Almost had it buried 2 barbs deep, if you had just let me run with it before you set the hook you might have gotten me in the boat. I was looking at it and thinking " well, I don't know jack on R/D's but man look at the movement in those inner limbs, that can't be right, can it?"  I am really happy to know that I haven't completly lost my mind. Key word being completely.  :o Danny
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on March 11, 2015, 10:31:19 am
I remember watching Gary's video the first time. He scratched on an osage bow a few minutes off the saw and popped a string right on it. I thought, "Man I wish it was that easy!". That tiny snippet in that video has driven me since. It can be that easy and is that easy! No magic dust, no secret bowyers sauce. Just lots of practice and paying attention to what experienced people tell me.
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: IdahoMatt on March 11, 2015, 11:47:27 pm
What video is video do you speak of Chris?
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: missilemaster on March 11, 2015, 11:58:45 pm
What video is video do you speak of Chris?

 Rattlestick, a selfbow tutorial by Gary Davis.  I must have watched it 20 times. It covers just about everything. A must watch for the beginner. Experienced guys will also dig it.
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: Arrowind on March 12, 2015, 12:36:49 am
Hmmm maybe a scrape or two.....nah just leave it.   Looks perfect.  BOM for sure!  ;D. 
Title: Re: RD tiller check
Post by: mikekeswick on March 12, 2015, 03:41:16 am
Aye it looks spot on to me - defo got a chance at being a BOM winner.