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Title: Darkening osage in a hurry
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 27, 2015, 10:06:49 am
I have read a few times that a guy can darken osage. But I don't remember with what. I tried hydrogen peroxide and rubbing alcohol last night, neither did anything to the woods color at all. Anybody remember what is used to darken it up, other than the sun?
Title: Re: Darkening osage in a hurry
Post by: Pat B on February 27, 2015, 10:13:41 am
Clorox will darken osage some.
Title: Re: Darkening osage in a hurry
Post by: DC on February 27, 2015, 10:15:15 am
Boy, that's counter-intuitive. Bleach to darken something, go figure :D
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Post by: adb on February 27, 2015, 10:17:30 am
Throw it in your tanning bed for a couple days Pearlie Boy!!!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Darkening osage in a hurry
Post by: Pat B on February 27, 2015, 10:19:56 am
Leather dye also works!  ::)   ;)
Title: Re: Darkening osage in a hurry
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 27, 2015, 10:20:23 am
Ill try that tonite Pat, thanks sir.

Title: Re: Darkening osage in a hurry
Post by: Pat B on February 27, 2015, 10:21:40 am
leather dye or Clorox?  ;D
Title: Re: Darkening osage in a hurry
Post by: Aaron H on February 27, 2015, 10:39:29 am
I thought I heard vinegar will do it, maybe that was like a stain though?
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Post by: paco664 on February 27, 2015, 10:40:55 am
i bet coffee would do it.. that stuff will stain anything
Title: Re: Darkening osage in a hurry
Post by: Dances with squirrels on February 27, 2015, 10:43:29 am
I use aniline dyes to get whatever color I want, but if you want the classic aged osage color, you can get there by accelerating its oxidation. 

Potassium permanganate is supposed to work. If you have the book... I remember reading about it in Hunting the Osage Bow, by Dean Torges... there's info about it around the web as well.
Title: Re: Darkening osage in a hurry
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 27, 2015, 10:45:25 am
That stuff will start a mean fire to Jeff. I will try bleach tonite, I do want that classic caramel color. Not a stain or dye.
Title: Re: Darkening osage in a hurry
Post by: Parnell on February 27, 2015, 11:02:53 am
Ship it to me.  I'll treat it for you in the s Florida sun. ;D
Title: Re: Darkening osage in a hurry
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 27, 2015, 11:05:50 am
Patience my friend, your on my "list".......somewhere!?!?! ;)
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Post by: blackhawk on February 27, 2015, 11:29:08 am
Heat gun!!! Fire!!!  :o  >:D
Title: Re: Darkening osage in a hurry
Post by: Stringman on February 27, 2015, 11:31:11 am
Simson had something that worked well to darken the wood.
Title: Re: Darkening osage in a hurry
Post by: Blaflair2 on February 27, 2015, 11:32:16 am
If u take vinegar and steel wool in a jar for a few days then strain the steel wool it reacts with the tannins in the wood. May darken it. Or make it black  :laugh: don't seal the jar, it'll go bang. Quite violently
Title: Re: Darkening osage in a hurry
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 27, 2015, 11:32:28 am
All of his osage bows look 5-8 yrs old. I hope he explains that on this thread.
Title: Re: Darkening osage in a hurry
Post by: simson on February 27, 2015, 12:10:12 pm
Chris you could stain a osage quite nice with vinegar and steelwhool, as said. But you could do it also with ammonia:
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,48632.0.html

It's really crazy, just two hours  before I put an osage bow in my fuming setup. It was a bright yeller stave. Will take it out tomorrow.

The big difference to any stain is that the color is not only on the wood it is in the wood.
Title: Re: Darkening osage in a hurry
Post by: Roy on February 27, 2015, 12:14:08 pm
Pearly boy, all your bows look 5 to 8 years old and worn out..  :) LMAO
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Post by: Marc St Louis on February 27, 2015, 12:32:53 pm
Yes apparently chlorine will do it
Title: Re: Darkening osage in a hurry
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 27, 2015, 12:38:05 pm
Thanks Simon and Marc. I have access to both of those.
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Post by: hunterbob on February 27, 2015, 12:56:19 pm
I also heard apple cider vinegar
Title: Re: Darkening osage in a hurry
Post by: Carson (CMB) on February 27, 2015, 01:31:19 pm
I haven't tried the ammonia fuming like Simon uses, but might have to try that.

I have had good look using the steel wool and vinegar mixture. I have used regular household white vinegar, but Gun Doc suggested apple cider vinegar to get a little more reddish hues in there. Need to try that one too.
Title: Re: Darkening osage in a hurry
Post by: randman on February 27, 2015, 03:06:31 pm
Whatever you do, don't use the ammonia and the chlorine bleach together......that can be bad....very bad...
Title: Re: Darkening osage in a hurry
Post by: Eric Krewson on February 27, 2015, 03:40:49 pm
Lye and water will darken it in a hurry, I used to degrease with the stuff.
Title: Re: Darkening osage in a hurry
Post by: DavidV on February 27, 2015, 03:58:30 pm
I like the vinegar and steel wool, but if the wood has to much tanin it'll get dark. White oak will come out jet black, red cedar comes out blue/gray, hickory comes out walnut colored. After you put it on blush it with a heat gun.
Title: Re: Darkening osage in a hurry
Post by: missilemaster on February 28, 2015, 01:26:43 am
Black spray paint. Darkens it right up!
Title: Re: Darkening osage in a hurry
Post by: IndianGuy on February 28, 2015, 02:09:21 am
Black spray paint. Darkens it right up!



LMAO! Made me choke on my snuff!
Title: Re: Darkening osage in a hurry
Post by: GlisGlis on February 28, 2015, 07:15:01 am
I've been told that you can darken also woods with few tannins applying a black tea solution on the wood before vinegar and steel wool solution
Basically the tannins are provided by tea
Title: Re: Darkening osage in a hurry
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 28, 2015, 07:58:37 am
Looks like I have lots of options, thanks everyone................except you Cody!
Title: Re: Darkening osage in a hurry
Post by: Renacs on February 28, 2015, 09:31:11 am
I have use old English before and it helped some.
Title: Re: Darkening osage in a hurry
Post by: Eric Krewson on February 28, 2015, 09:41:44 am
I put some aqufortis stain on a scrap of osage once and blushed it with a heat gun, the osage turned black.
Title: Re: Darkening osage in a hurry
Post by: snag on February 28, 2015, 01:28:40 pm
I made an osage bow that I wanted to quicken the aging on. I put the bow on a couple of blocks of wood off the floor. Then put ammonia in glass jars (3) and positioned them evenly next to the bow. I draped some plastic sheeting over it all and tried to seal the edges down to the cement floor. I left it for a couple of weeks. It worked pretty well.  It still had a little bit of "osage color". But definitely darkened a bit.