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Title: how big does Yew need to be?
Post by: JoJoDapyro on February 12, 2015, 06:59:28 pm
I have only ever found 2 Yew "trees" in Utah. One is quite a bit larger than this one, but is on private property and I haven't had a chance to talk to the owners yet. This "tree" is on public property and will be cut down anyway in the next year or so. How large of a piece would I need to make a bow? The largest branches are about as big around as a shovel handle.
Title: Re: how big does Yew need to be?
Post by: E. Jensen on February 12, 2015, 07:36:16 pm
I was about to chime in and inform you that that was juniper but lo and behold, its an actual yew growing in Utah!  It looks pretty slim, but you might be able to get two matching pieces and splice them together.  I'd be interested to see what the growth rate is compared to the northwest.
Title: Re: how big does Yew need to be?
Post by: wizardgoat on February 12, 2015, 07:45:27 pm
For yew I keep anything over an inch. Even an inch wide piece will have some heartwood in it
Title: Re: how big does Yew need to be?
Post by: Weylin on February 12, 2015, 08:46:28 pm
Eh, put that poor tree out of it's misery. I can almost hear it screaming in agony from all that direct sunlight and dry heat. It's sobbing, "This isn't my home, why did dome cruel, cruel bastard plant me here in this desert!?"  ;D ;)
Title: Re: how big does Yew need to be?
Post by: JoJoDapyro on February 12, 2015, 09:46:03 pm
The location of this is where a front yard used to be. It used to be in the shade all the time. It is 2 plants, what I assume used to be shrubs. There is a 3rd stump that someone already beat me to. The other has about 10 5 inch 12 foot long "trunks". I'm betting that it was a shrub once upon a time too.  I asked the city arborist if he knew of any Yew trees in Utah, he didn't know of any. I had to break it to him that there are 2 growing in the city.
Title: Re: how big does Yew need to be?
Post by: E. Jensen on February 12, 2015, 11:10:54 pm
If you have the patience to dig up the root ball there is some amazing wood in there
Title: Re: how big does Yew need to be?
Post by: wizardgoat on February 12, 2015, 11:21:32 pm
I'd say go for it jojo
Title: Re: how big does Yew need to be?
Post by: Del the cat on February 13, 2015, 02:42:14 am
It depends on the heart/sap wood ratio. Of course, you don't know that until you cut it! >:D
If it's slow growing you may find 1 1/2" is enough 2" would be better tho'
Del
Title: Re: how big does Yew need to be?
Post by: DarkSoul on February 13, 2015, 05:56:58 am
Those two pictures show what appears to me as a juniper...

2" diameter is good for yew, but I'm sure even 1½" will work for a light bow.
Title: Re: how big does Yew need to be?
Post by: blackhawk on February 13, 2015, 06:40:04 am
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php?topic=33859.0
Title: Re: how big does Yew need to be?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 13, 2015, 08:48:40 am
It looks like the garden variety yew, maybe a shrub that got out of control.
Title: Re: how big does Yew need to be?
Post by: adb on February 13, 2015, 10:32:06 am
I would say that's ornamental yew. Japanese yew.
Title: Re: how big does Yew need to be?
Post by: Aaron H on February 13, 2015, 11:19:21 am
Is Japanese yew considered bow making wood?
Title: Re: how big does Yew need to be?
Post by: E. Jensen on February 13, 2015, 11:38:19 am
I think so.  Depends on ring size but I've succeeded in making a 63" 72#@28 bow from it
Title: Re: how big does Yew need to be?
Post by: JoJoDapyro on February 13, 2015, 11:46:54 am
Those two pictures show what appears to me as a juniper...

2" diameter is good for yew, but I'm sure even 1½" will work for a light bow.
I know for a fact its Yew. Juniper is like a weed here in Utah. Miles and miles of it. There is even berries if you look close. If there is one tree I can identify without fail it is juniper.
Title: Re: how big does Yew need to be?
Post by: adb on February 13, 2015, 12:27:04 pm
I think so.  Depends on ring size but I've succeeded in making a 63" 72#@28 bow from it

Could you post some pics of this bow?
Title: Re: how big does Yew need to be?
Post by: Blitzkrieg721 on February 13, 2015, 12:35:10 pm
I think so.  Depends on ring size but I've succeeded in making a 63" 72#@28 bow from it

Could you post some pics of this bow?

LOL id say it will 72# @ 28"???? I think that could be considered a success
Title: Re: how big does Yew need to be?
Post by: E. Jensen on February 13, 2015, 02:30:12 pm
For reference, bow is canted
Title: Re: how big does Yew need to be?
Post by: adb on February 13, 2015, 04:46:57 pm
Nice bow! It appears to be longer than 63" however?
Title: Re: how big does Yew need to be?
Post by: E. Jensen on February 13, 2015, 05:35:33 pm
Um I'll have to check.  It might be 66".  I may have confused it with another bow.
Title: Re: how big does Yew need to be?
Post by: JoJoDapyro on February 13, 2015, 06:45:43 pm
Gives me hope!
Title: Re: how big does Yew need to be?
Post by: JoJoDapyro on February 13, 2015, 07:21:58 pm
Holy smokes that stuff is tough. Didn't have a bunch of time so I snagged one piece.  I trim a bunch of trees  with my job, this stuff is tough.  :o 39 inches to the first knot. What should I do now?
Title: Re: how big does Yew need to be?
Post by: adb on February 13, 2015, 07:42:30 pm
Doesn't look like yew needles. They're usually in opposing pairs, and flat.
Title: Re: how big does Yew need to be?
Post by: JoJoDapyro on February 13, 2015, 07:45:59 pm
Or it doesn't look like Pacific Yew? It has the berries and all. As was discussed earlier, maybe Japanese, it does seem to fit that description.
Title: Re: how big does Yew need to be?
Post by: adb on February 13, 2015, 07:51:03 pm
Yup, those look like yew berries, for sure.
Title: Re: how big does Yew need to be?
Post by: wizardgoat on February 13, 2015, 09:07:32 pm
Yup. Ornamental yew. Jojo seal the ends and forget about it for 9 months at least
Title: Re: how big does Yew need to be?
Post by: DarkSoul on February 14, 2015, 05:54:44 am
Yup, that's yew.
As a round stick, you need to dry it slowly and carefully. Seal the ends and let it dry slowly for the first few months. In a dark cellar, a cold shed...something like that.