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Title: I dont love my buck knife
Post by: sleek on February 08, 2015, 04:21:07 pm
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Osage ate it.
Title: Re: I dont love my buck knife
Post by: DC on February 08, 2015, 04:30:57 pm
Ouch!! Will Buck go good for something like that?
Title: Re: I dont love my buck knife
Post by: Chief RID on February 08, 2015, 04:42:53 pm
How did you do that sleek? I know your pain. Still love my Bucks.
Title: Re: I dont love my buck knife
Post by: osage outlaw on February 08, 2015, 04:53:21 pm
Buck makes knives, not scrapers.
Title: Re: I dont love my buck knife
Post by: Pat B on February 08, 2015, 05:09:53 pm
They may replace it for you.
Title: Re: I dont love my buck knife
Post by: mullet on February 08, 2015, 05:13:14 pm
That's why I quit buying Buck knives since the late seventies. Is that the General? I've broke two of them and the smaller version, twice by sitting on them. The steel is too hard and when they get dull a bear to sharpen.
Title: Re: I dont love my buck knife
Post by: sleek on February 08, 2015, 05:20:52 pm
I was literally just chopping with it and it broke. I dont even want a replacement.  Gave it to a guy who is gonna call buck for a replacement.  Im done with them. The knife design sucks anyway.
Title: Re: I dont love my buck knife
Post by: lebhuntfish on February 08, 2015, 05:26:15 pm
I don't like bucks either. Should have stayed with the kabar! Lol Patrick
Title: Re: I dont love my buck knife
Post by: osage outlaw on February 08, 2015, 06:01:59 pm
I have several buck knives and have no complaints.  I have had a buck vanguard since I was a teenager.  My Dad bought one for me and one for himself.  We both really like them.  There are a bunch of fake buck knives from china on the big auction site.  They look just like the real ones.  Even the boxes look the same.   I'm sure the quality isn't the same though.
Title: Re: I dont love my buck knife
Post by: Danzn Bar on February 08, 2015, 07:21:17 pm
OO know exactly what your talk'n about................had the same experience........... China make's some good look a-likes..........These days need to stick with the older models...............
Title: Re: I dont love my buck knife
Post by: nclonghunter on February 08, 2015, 07:36:18 pm
You can go to Buck website and print a form for returning it. I broke a Buck folder a few years ago just like that. Mailed it back to them and they replaced it for free. They can even keep the old handles if you have sentimental feeling about them. I also got a coupon for a new purchase on another knife. I was extremely happy with Buck Knives and their customer service. Good Luck
Title: Re: I dont love my buck knife
Post by: bow101 on February 08, 2015, 07:36:23 pm
So hard brittle like glass
Title: Re: I dont love my buck knife
Post by: Danzn Bar on February 08, 2015, 07:42:09 pm
You need to treat a knife like a knife ...not some other tool..
DBar
Title: Re: I dont love my buck knife
Post by: sleek on February 08, 2015, 08:53:25 pm
I was just chopping a bow with it. Dont think I was using it to harsh. Anyway a guy at the gun show I was working had some cookies. I traded it for one.

In my opinion, the handle isnt long enough, its too slippery, blade doesnt weigh enough, its got a hollow grind when it needs a flat grind and its too brittle.
Title: Re: I dont love my buck knife
Post by: sleek on February 08, 2015, 09:11:51 pm
I should say, it doesnt work for anything I use a knife for. Others may love it. Sorry, didnt mean to be a hard headed so and so.
Title: Re: I dont love my buck knife
Post by: osage outlaw on February 08, 2015, 09:24:24 pm
Sleek, Give this one a try.  Its the vanguard that I mentioned earlier. It has a thick drop point blade.  The handle has a nice grip that doesn't slip even when bloody.  I don't think a knife is the best tool for chopping out a bow.  Have you tried using a flat sided hatchet instead?

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Title: Re: I dont love my buck knife
Post by: sleek on February 08, 2015, 10:11:16 pm
Im probably going to stick with my KaBar for knife usage though I like the looks of that vanguard drop point for general duties and skinning. As for a hatchet, its on my to build list. I have the osage for a handle :)
Title: Re: I dont love my buck knife
Post by: jayman448 on February 09, 2015, 01:53:27 am
so... why do so many hate on Buck knives... i love my bucks...  :o
Title: Re: I dont love my buck knife
Post by: mullet on February 09, 2015, 08:48:37 pm
One, because I have so many hand forged or custom knives that are better. They hold an edge longer and are easier to sharpen and the ones I broke back in the seventies left a nasty taste.
Title: Re: I dont love my buck knife
Post by: E. Jensen on February 09, 2015, 09:59:38 pm
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I was literally just chopping with it and it broke

Well there is your problem.  Knives are for cutting.  Chopping is abuse.  Prying is abuse.  Batoning is abuse.  Throwing is abuse (unless its a throwing knife).

Was that an older buck?  Older bucks were made from harder steel (thus more brittle) than modern bucks, switching circa 1980.  Regardless, old 440C knives and modern 420 (some might argue is not even considered a blade steel) are both stainless steels.  All stainless steels are more brittle than their carbon steel counter parts.  That's why decent axes, prying tools, etc etc are made form carbon steel. 

Credentials: retired professional knife maker.
Title: Re: I dont love my buck knife
Post by: sleek on February 09, 2015, 10:08:05 pm
No offense but all that sounds like small print for a large knife that should be able to do more than cut a steak. Agreed on your metalugy statement. Carbon is good stainless is for the kitchen.  My KayBar was designed well and can handle much " abuse." Of course it was designed to. For a knife that should be a woodsman style knife, you really cant do anything with that buck knife.

The knife was bought new about 6-7 years ago and rarely used.
Title: Re: I dont love my buck knife
Post by: E. Jensen on February 09, 2015, 10:20:56 pm
Basically its like this.  A knife can cut well, or it can chop/pry well.  But not both, there is always a trade off.  You CAN get a knife that will do hatchet work, but I promise, 10 times out of 10, one hundred percent, every single time, it will not cut as well as a knife designed to cut
Title: Re: I dont love my buck knife
Post by: sleek on February 09, 2015, 10:33:45 pm
Point taken.
Title: Re: I dont love my buck knife
Post by: chamookman on February 10, 2015, 04:26:01 am
My favorite scraper is a Buck #105 fixed blade that's about 40 years old. It's bugger to get an edge on, but it really holds it when done. Bob
Title: Re: I dont love my buck knife
Post by: country on February 10, 2015, 02:19:51 pm
I have the same knife.  Had it for quite awhile with no complaints but it is a booger to sharpen :)
Title: Re: I dont love my buck knife
Post by: bubby on February 10, 2015, 04:18:27 pm
I was always a old timer/schrade guy but i have several bucks now and they are real good knifes, hard to sharpen but stay sharp forever
Title: Re: I dont love my buck knife
Post by: soy on February 11, 2015, 12:24:13 pm
I have the buck Nighthawk....bought it in the early 90s....she'll chop pry cut and about any thing else you could want .....but its so darn thick its a pain to put a good edge on
Title: Re: I dont love my buck knife
Post by: Chief RID on February 11, 2015, 02:42:02 pm
I love my bucks. The black Protege has done most of the duties on deer for a while now. Only takes a touch up occasionally. It has work on a lot of deer the last 10 years or so. Not bad for a 25 dollar knife. The little green handle lite holds a special place for me. It skinned and dressed my 1st traditional big game bow kill with the bow back in the early 90s. It stays sharp too with just minor touch up. The 110 is the hardest to get an edge on and see duty only when the Protege has been neglected between multiple jobs. The lite I believe has been with me since the early 80s.
Title: Re: I dont love my buck knife
Post by: Eric Krewson on February 12, 2015, 10:13:40 am
I got this one as a safety award from work about 30 years ago, hard to sharpen so it is not my go to knife for gutting deer but is always in my pack as a back-up.

I started putting a hash mark in the handle every time I killed a deer so I could keep track, 65 so far, most killed with traditional bows or black powder guns. I could have killed hundreds over the years but only kill one when I actually need the meat for myself or a friend.

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