Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: kid bow on February 07, 2015, 09:57:10 pm
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Ok so i haven't contributed much here but i will now. Did some experimenting today about arrow and bow sealants. This whole experiment came about because I didn't want to deal with the toxic chemicals of the actual stain but need a good weather proofing. Also mom was kinda pissed i got stain on my good pair of jeans ( >:D hehehe) anyways i found that mixing coconut oil with olive oil together gives a dark hue to wood arrows and bows and really shows the grain pattern. Ill post pictures in the morning. When making use more coconut oil than olive oil. About a 2:1 portion and you can figure out your preference from there. Just mix with olive to coconut oil.
The coconut oil should be solid but will melt down and slowly mix with a stick or your finger. No heat needed. When youve got your first layer on heat lightly and then put another coat on. Hope you guys found this helpful and please let me know what you guys think about it and what way work good for you.
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The problem with that is olive an coconut oil never dries. Are you using it as a sealer or just for color? It may mess with any sealer you put on top.
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Thats what the heat is for after you put it on.
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I wonder the difference in this oil mix and boiled linseed or raw linseed some folks use.
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The problem with that is olive an coconut oil never dries. Are you using it as a sealer or just for color? It may mess with any sealer you put on top.
That's what I wonder and does it actually seal the wood or does it just hydrate the wood. I know some people use olive oil in their hair when it's dry but use something else over the oil to seal it in.
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oils will saponify or "dry" if you prefer, very slowly. linseed or flax oil is not much different than most other vegetable oils but boiled linseed will saponify quite quickly, similar to some paints. Some boiled linseed is actually boiled, but cheaper boiled linseed is chemically "boiled". Wood working and furniture making forums cover oils and stains extensively . some oils will continue to darken too much with age
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Watch for rotting and smell.
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Theres no smell.
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Theres no smell.
Not yet. Have you ever seen someone who tries to season a cast iron pan with vegetable oil? It rots, and stinks.
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Not yet. Have you ever seen someone who tries to season a cast iron pan with vegetable oil? It rots, and stinks
If you season it properly it shouldn't rot. Gots to heat that pan super hot.
From my google -fu I learned that there are three types of oils. Drying, semi-drying and non-drying. "Drying" is a misnomer because really it's polymerizing. Tung and linseed are near the top for drying oils. I believe sesame oil is on the border of semi-drying/non-drying. Olive and coconut are non-drying.
You might be able to add metal salts (usually lead based) to increase drying .
Linseed and Tung are a bit scary as the polymerization is exothermic (heat producing) . That is why oil-soaked rags can catch fire.
Anyhow, olive oil and coconut are not sealing your bow. You might be able to heat the oil out of the wood.
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Its working for my bow. Its completely dry.
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kid bow you make me feel right at home, buddy! My boys gotter all figured out to!
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Keep on Keep'in on KB. We used to think you could not make bows out of kiln dried boards either. I got no experience at all so I have to go with proven methods for now but you keep pushing the envelope young man.
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No doubt the kid can make a bow. This is a fact. Let him experiment. Hes got years to learn and discover things.
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Hehe ill be honest im seriously confused. Oh well, I thought it was pretty cool. :laugh:
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Only time will tell. Just look at all the people who discovered things and people thought they were nuts.
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I think we may have jumped the gun a bit. Olive oil and coconut oil are both shelf stable. I've been reading up on home made beeswax wood stains and most call for either olive oil or coconut oil.
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I doubt that either one is going to hurt you any KB
I don't know how long term a sealer they are but if you re oil once in a while they should be fine
I like a fresh coat of true oil from time to time myself
lets us know how it stands up for you so we can decide if we want to make the change
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Bees wax is a non toxic sealer. I believe it is rated higher than synthetic sealers as far as moisture protection goes. I use a little olive oil in my string wax mix with bees wax and use the same stuff to seal bows on occassion.
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Walnut oil can be used and mineral oil. These oils are also food safe. Vegetable oil goes Rancid........End of story. >:D
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Olive oil and coconut oil are non drying oils but they DO NOT go rancid. In addition coconut oil has anti-fungal and anti-viral properties and it tastes great too ...spoon of it on the tongue and let it melt in your mouth.... that is if you live on a climate where it's solid most of the time....above 80 degrees F it's liquid. And it's the only thing I use on my cast iron pans for seasoning. Never thought about it for a wood finish though, too many superior products readily available....
Walnut oil DOES go rancid (real fast).....