Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: makenzie71 on January 23, 2015, 02:43:32 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEG-ly9tQGk
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Now that boy can shoot. 8)
Thanks for posting this video.
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I always like seeing him shoot. I haven't really looked into his historical sources for some of the stuff he claims, but I'll say this much - what he does looks to be effective for an archer fighting alone against multiple opponents. I don't think it would be as effective to have a group of archers doing what he does, other than the quick firing.
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one word awesome! thanks for sharing that.
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Only about 40 people have sent this to me on Facebook today.
I might hear some flak, but I am highly skeptical of his unsupported assertions that he presents like documentable fact. Long ago, I posted something to that effect on a youtube video and was attacked en masse. The theme was that if I could not shoot like him I should shut up. That carries as much proof as saying I am rubber, you are glue, bounces off me and sticks to you! Meanwhile, I have yet to see great evidence supporting his theories.
But if I was in a running battle limited to archery equipment, I want him on my side! You cannot fault his shooting!
Now comes the question, is his training duplicatable in numbers? In other words, can he take a mess of recruits and train them in these techniques such that they are all proficient? Or is this something akin to being the cream of the crop? Not everyone that dribbles a basketball is going to be Michael Jordan.
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This is absolutely Awesome...... 8) :o 8) :o :) If a Wheelie bow >:D person ever doubts a traditional/stick bow I know where to send him. That is to cool. 8)
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WOW ! I want Him on My side >:D - Bob.
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HUnting with him, and he shoots the whole herd or what? :P ;D
Crazy guy, just amazing!
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Awesome stuff from this guy!
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Truly amazing skills! I've only heard of people holding their arrows in their bow hand. But you can't take away from his skill with his technique.
Mast of the speed shooters that I have seen are just fast! He is fast and deadly accurate! Patrick
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i'm with JW the stuff lars is doing looks really cool, but honestly i think it looks more like the Hollywood/trick shooting than anything else, still incredible skill.
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I wonder what the draw weight on the bow is, what exactly his technique is for holding and shooting the arrows (does he use a thumb ring?), is he getting a full draw... I want details!
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For those of you who frequent Reddit there is a request for him to do an AMA. If they get through to him and he can actually dedicate a day to doing it I'll post it should I see it. There's not much better a way to find that stuff out than to ask him, Calamitus.
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2tj3eo/ama_request_lars_andersen_master_archer/
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Even better, fetch him over here to South Dakota in the fall and I will drag his happy butt out into the pheasant fields. We'll shoot a video to make folks stand up and bark about!
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Never heard of him until Today and it seems he is everywhere I look. ??? ;) :)
Pappy
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Reddit tried to make him popular a couple years ago but the video he had up was pretty low quality and the narrator was Simon Says...made it hard to watch lol
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OK, I do live a pretty sheltered life, :-[ guess that is why I haven't heard of him. :)about the only u tube I watch is posted on here. ;) ;D ;D ;D
Pappy
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It is amazing how many people have sent me messages about this video in the last 3 days. Behold the power of something "going viral".
I'm interested in the comment of Saracen archers having to shoot 3 arrows in less than 1.5 seconds. With what # bow?
I've been studying the Karpowicz book for awhile now and the idea is war bows drew 130#, or so.
Anybody want to speculate on the ability to pull of this kind of shooting with that weight?
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The narrator does go over this in the video. Most archers now draw with only their right arm. Watching how this guy draws, he uses both arms, pushing with the left and pulling with the right. I have read a few places that drawing a high draw weight is more about form and not so much about strength.
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Anybody want to speculate on the ability to pull of this kind of shooting with that weight?
Keep in mind that those heavy draw weights were based on shooting like we know it today...and also that piercing armor and killing a person in combat is more about how strong and fast the arrow is. A heavy draw weight can get the speed needed, but it's not the only way. I think what he's really breaking out is that there's a lot more ways to shoot a bow effectively than we know now. We've probably lost more "technology" when it comes to bending sticks than we can currently conceive.
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I'm watching this again and I just noticed the best part... at about 2:11 in the video when he throws the ball. :o ;D
That boy wasn't raised in 'merica. >:D
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He does throw a ball pretty weakly.
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The ball is simply a distraction. While we all sit around and ponder what kind of girly man throws a ball like that he shoots us all three times.
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In the Eye, alternating left, right and left hand again!
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Eh, he's fast... The narration and "historical facts" strike me as pretentious and sometimes hyperbolic, sometimes downright wrong.
his "back quiver" gestures are over-exaggerated and clownish.
Especially aggravating is all of the cow spit about all of this being "lost" to time.
Write me off as a hater
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He's an agile fellow! I had to sit down and catch my breath. got winded just watching him!
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This video points out a lot of the issues I have with Lars' narrative. He's a good shot- he's put a lot of practice into what he does, but he isn't rediscovering anything, and he isn't revolutionizing archery.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDbqz_07dW4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDbqz_07dW4)
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Something that video doesn't take into consideration is that it's narrated by someone in English. Lars is Danish and doesn't speak English (at least I can't find an interview or anything that indicates that he speaks English). I imagine there was quite a bit lost in translation. Context and implications do not always translate well.
Personally I only saw the video as examples of how his techniques are feasible as having real-world implementation and not a "this is hard fact reality" as the response video makes it out to have been an attempt at.
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Oh boy......I've got to practice
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Some food for thought on Lars...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDbqz_07dW4&feature=youtu.be
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Thanks for posting this Adam. She at least seem to back up what she says.
...and to the "which side of the bow to shoot from" I believe it has to do with the release style in most cases. With a thumb ring the string slips off to the right side so less paradox is needed with the arrow on the right and vice versa for the Mediterranean, tertiary, etc. style release which has the string slip off the fingers to the left so the arrow goes on the left side of the bow.
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I think Mr Anderson could have presented himself as a trick shooter, which he certainly is. However, all his others claims of rediscovery of lost archery techniques have exposed him for what he is.
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There again, what we're hearing is a narrator. Until I heard the story from his own lips I wouldn't judge him too harshly. The context of discovery can range from "I discovered something lost/never seen" to "I just learned of" and when we're talking about traversing different languages the two can get muddled easily. I deal with almost daily such similar misunderstandings with Portuguese to English ledgers.
Plus the "response" video makes just as many vague generalizations. Not that I'm saying she's wrong or that Lars is some kind of hero...just that there's probably more information to be had not easily expressed by someone who doesn't speak English.
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The language barrier does make things difficult. I'm sure that like anything there are three sides to this, with reality being somewhere in the middle. I still think he's a great shot, and does some amazing things- I would not try to catch an arrow!
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Well, I know one thing she said was truthful, catching arrows. I've caught a lot of them in Karate Demo's and at drunken, Karate cook outs. It is really easy with a 25-30# bow. When you start to get up in the 45 to 55# range, the fletching will burn little white streaks across your hand when you try to close it. And a 60# compound bow will flat out mangle your hand up when hit with a rubber blunt.
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Yeah, can't disagree, he is a good trick shot artist. As for the narration, it's all horse wash.
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Here you guys go. Good fodder for the skeptics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iLTA43MBuA
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His publicist/PR person is a genius! First let Lars show off his amazing trick shot talents with a little controversy thrown in. Wait for the video to go viral with critics making claims against him. THEN, have Lars narrate in his broken English rebuttals, while being humble to what he can and can't do. WINNER, WINNER, Chicken Dinner. I'd like to be his booking manager at 10% for the next 2 years. The only place he'd be sleeping would be on a plane. Throw in a couple Hollywood gigs, start at with a guest appearance on "America's Got Talent and we're both set for life.
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say what you want... trick shooting or whatever...
but cuz has some serious skills...