Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: nflbowhunter on December 26, 2014, 06:39:04 pm
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Working on a cedar bow and I found a nick in the back of the bow and while I was roughing out the tips a knot pop out in the center of the tips any ideas on what I should do for nocks
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Pics are always helpful, sometimes necessary to really help ;)
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it says the file was to large :-\
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Make a free account on imgur, use it for everything, never have said problem again ;)
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Make the file smaller. Either use Microsoft Office Picture Manager, Picassa, Gimp, Adobe Photoshop or an online free photo editor. Photo needs to be 250K or smaller.
Jim Davis
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here you go
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not the best pics
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We need more info. How long is it, what weight are you shooting for, also please post a pic of the nick on the back and a shot of the whole bow please
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What kind of cedar?
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the bow is erc 65 inches tip to tip im shooting for about 50 to 55 pounds
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Ok, thanks. I think the back nick will be no problem, just smooth it out. The tip is hard to tell. How wide is it at the knot? You'LL PRobably have to leave it wide with the knot as-is.
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It's about 1.25
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Oh drat. You could shorten one or both limbs. Or you could eliminate the knot by narrowing one side only. Your nocks only need to be one half inch wide in the end(OR LESS). How thick is the tip at the knot?
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There about 3/4 thick
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Well, that is plenty thick, but not sure if you have enough width to eliminate the knot. If you shorten it, you will only have a 62 inch bow, and at that length, it would be better as a bendy handle, especially if you are a beginner...however, you have roughed out a rigid handle, no?
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If you back it, you could shorten it and still be safe.
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Just follow the grain around that knot and u can narrow it quite a bit, most of the na bows were 3/4" wide at the tips,
And you can still get that handle to bend some even narrowed like that
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What draw length are you trying for
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Yeah I have roughed out a handle and I don't have the sinew or rawhide to back it and im shooting for a 26 inch draw could I narrow it down then add deer antler overlays
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how wide would the nock be if you narrowed it to remove the entire knot? If you have 1/2 inch, great. If you have 3/8 still prob OK. if it's only 1/4 , yeah ... maybe. I have done 1/4 inch nocks with harder woods, but with ERC, i would be scared. With these real narrow nocks, you'd hae to do a "back nock" like this: http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,49428.msg675004.html#msg675004
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it would be if i tried to avoid it about 1/4
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The knot is fine. Let it swirl as it presently is. Make it the bottom limb so there will be no problem stringing the bow. That's what I've done.
I can't tell if the nick is deep enough to have gone through a ring. Doesn't seem so. Do some light sanding to ee if it goes away.
Cedar is a pretty marginal wood when unbacked.
You may want to back it with linen, burlap or silk...probably linen. Rawhide is also an option. Stop the backing at the bottom of the knot.
Jawge
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Just follow the grain around that knot and u can narrow it quite a bit, most of the na bows were 3/4" wide at the tips,
I'm with Bubby, and George T. ERC is a very lightweight wood, so a little extra wood at the tip isn't going to kill you. Draw lines to where you would narrow the tips, if the knot wasn't there. Then, measure how wide the knot is, and add that much width total in a circle around the knot, and blend the circle lines into the straight lines.
ERC is wonderful stuff, but junipers have a reputation for being a litle tension weak on the back.
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I wouldn't worry about the knot at the tip. Do as George and bubby suggested and just work around it. The gash in the back doesn't look too deep. I'd sand it down smooth and rawhide back the bow. You can trade for rawhide on the Trading Post or use silk or linen for a backing. The knot above the handle should be no problem at all.
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I doubt you will get 55#. Personally I would go, 1 1/2 -2" out of the Fades and taper it down to the tips trying to keep it wide most of the way if it is unbacked. Especially with the other challenges.