Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: jeffp51 on December 03, 2014, 02:21:36 am
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Saw this on youtube and thought I would try it. I really like the results. Super easy too.
1. Start with 8-32 threaded rod and cut it into 2-3 inch lengths, depending on what weight you want.
2.File away the burs and add 3 or 4 nuts. I like the brass ones because they are a little easier to work, but zinc works too.
3. Tighten the three nuts against each other, leaving about 3 threads of threads of the rod sticking out the end. It seems to help if the flat sides are lined up.
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4. Put the rod in a drill press and set for the highest speed.
5. Spin the drill and the dremel cutoff wheel at top speed and grind in the point to the desired shape. Keep going untill the lines between the nuts disappear.
6. You can smooth the point and polish it with progressive grades of wet-dry sandpaper. I like to finish with brasso--It makes a beautiful shiny point, even if I know it will be scratched up after a couple of times through the target. I like to see my face in it at least when I start.
7. I use gorrilla glue to haft. It fills in all the gaps and is the most secure stuff I have found so far.
Each tip took me less than 5 minutes once I had the tools set up and ready to go. I am liking these much better than the duplex nails I have been using, while keeping the same scavenger feel to them--I don't have to buy a pre-made tip. Each one is less than a dollar.
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Pretty cool Idea. Thanks for sharing.
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Very cool. :)
Pappy
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Like they say there is more than one way to skin a cat and this goes to show it. 8)
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They look awesome! But the time and cost for them, does it add up?
(my personal rule is, if I can make something that's worth 20$ in an hour, then I'll go for it)
But I also find arrow-making from scratch tedious.
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If this were about "saving money and time", we'd all go out to a pawn shop and buy a cheap second hand wheeliebow! Sometimes it is about bragging rights, showing off, and proving you can do it.
And it is always up to the individual to define whether or not it is worth the effort. As for arrows, I'm with you...hate makin' 'em with a purple passion!
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I agree with JW, but on the other hand, I figure each point has $.40 of materials in it, and I timed myself making one last night. It took eight minutes from start to finish, So it is a win for Tree Ninja too. I may have to make one with a zinc nut between the two brass. that may look cool too.
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Or zinc washers between each nut???
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Saw this on youtube ...
Ya may have seen mxred's vid. He's a good guy. Wish he was still visiting these forums & making archery related vids.
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I did see the mxred vid. If you have a grinder like he does, this would be even easier. I didn't think about washers. that would look really neat with thin bands. As they are now the threaded rod makes a silver point on top of the brass.
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Very cool, I'll have to try that. What kinda weight are you getting? Patrick
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I don't have a grain scale, but a two-inch shaft with three nuts is 6 grams (92grain?) and a three inch shaft with 4 nuts weighs 9 grams (139 grain?) The conversions can only be approximate, of course.
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If this were about "saving money and time", we'd all go out to a pawn shop and buy a cheap second hand wheeliebow! Sometimes it is about bragging rights, showing off, and proving you can do it.
I was just being pragmatic, and no, this site isn't about saving money, but when you look at complete wooden arrows to purchase, it's not hard to save the money by making them yourself. A wheelie-bow second hand is still expensive (and not in the spirit of the primitive archer).
I agree with JW, but on the other hand, I figure each point has $.40 of materials in it, and I timed myself making one last night. It took eight minutes from start to finish, So it is a win for Tree Ninja too. I may have to make one with a zinc nut between the two brass. that may look cool too.
Wow! Okay you win. I really like how they look compared to the ones you can buy. The brass looks bad-ass, and is unique. With unstained raw cypress shafts (yellow cedar or port orford) I think they would look really slick. I think I will have to try.
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I would love to see the results when you do.
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I would love to see the results when you do.
+1!!
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Best of all, Tree_Ninja, these are unregistered ammunition! Best for clandestine bow-ops, right?
I'm kinda trying to figure out how you could do one of these and then unscrew one of the nuts and add a wing nut inbetween....be a killer small game point!
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i love this but the pic with the dremel made me shudder :-X if i ever try making some like this i think i will use a coarse file instead ;D
do you ever feel the need to use any glue/lock-tight to help hold the nuts together?
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I tried a file and had no luck. something about two spinning surfaces--one that grinds and the other to keep it round. Maybe your file is better than mine. A grinder and a hand drill works too. I also tried it on the belt sander with success, but it was harder to shape. You will go through the cutoff wheels pretty quick, but they are cheap. Wear protective glasses for sure.
no locktite is necessary. If you can unscrew them, you would need vice grips or something, and it would probably ruin it. There is no way they will come lose on their own.
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I'm kinda trying to figure out how you could do one of these and then unscrew one of the nuts and add a wing nut inbetween....be a killer small game point!
I would make the point, then add a wing nut and another unrounded nut behind that. No need to unscrew anything
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I tried a file and had no luck. something about two spinning surfaces--one that grinds and the other to keep it round. Maybe your file is better than mine. A grinder and a hand drill works too. I also tried it on the belt sander with success, but it was harder to shape. You will go through the cutoff wheels pretty quick, but they are cheap. Wear protective glasses for sure.
no locktite is necessary. If you can unscrew them, you would need vice grips or something, and it would probably ruin it. There is no way they will come lose on their own.
good to know, i will have to do some experimenting when i get a chance ;D also nice to know that i don't need glue the whole process will be simpler :laugh: