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Title: 2015 Classic
Post by: Wolf Watcher on November 09, 2014, 11:37:27 am
I know its early, but I am thinking and hoping to make the Classic.  Will be coming by myself as either my wife or myself has to stay home to do the chores on long trips.  Am wondering what to bring for donations and trade items?  If I know this far in advance the long winter could be a time for making some things to bring.  This has been a crazy year with lots of rain early and thru the summer so our hills are covered with tall grass and the elk are still in the high country.  I have three cow elk tags so I could possibly bring one for Pappy's freezer if he has room!  I have a moose hide cut into three pieces in the salt and a fairly large set of elk horns and lots of cutup elk horn for projects.  I could make some rifles slings and canteens.  Hope to have a couple of items for the "Spirit Station" as well.  Don't know what JW has for plans for his trip, but it would be possible to scale the big mountains to South Dakota and make him help drive.  Now wouldn't that be a hoot?  Any suggestions on what to bring would be appreciated.  We have a couple of really nice big bucks in the yard and no way except email to send pictures.  So many new people on here that I would like to meet!  Joe
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Zuma on November 09, 2014, 12:42:31 pm
What a good idea. I don't think anything on your list would be unwanted.
Maybe some Mackinaw skins for bows if you can get some.
There is a thread on elk hooves. Elk antler makes exellent obsidian billets
and knife handles.
Rock hunting is rough when you are trying to make time traveling.
Knowing if members have some on hand and they are on your route could
give you a good oppurtunity to get quality knapping material. Pipestone etc.
You could trade for it if all arrangements are made in advance.
You should be going through some good areas. Many  like large deer antlers for
 billets and knife handles.
Zuma
If you can downsize your photos you can post them easier right here
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Wolf Watcher on November 09, 2014, 01:24:41 pm
  Thanks for your ideas.  I have lots of rock from my old knapping days and could bring some of that.  I have 29 or so issues of "CHIPS" and some Waldorf stuff.  I have a barn full of elk, moose, and whitetail horns but my supervisor will not give me permission to trade them!  Also have some hides and parts of hides hair on of some African antelope.  I have a box full of notes from J B Solberger and plans for his jig he sent to me.  I don't know what to do with them as they should go to some knapping historian.  Please excuse me for looking forward to the Classic, but I really missed it last year!  Joe
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: osage outlaw on November 09, 2014, 01:31:07 pm
I'm looking forward to seeing you again Joe.  You missed a great classic last year.  Beautiful weather most of the week.  It seems each classic is just a little better than the last.  I'm sure any of your work will be a hit on the raffle table.
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: mullet on November 09, 2014, 10:59:34 pm
Joe;

Glad you are going to make it. I look forward to seeing you, my friend. I could probably rustle up something to trade for those Chips magazines and Waldorf, stuff. If James Parker shows up the Solberger plans and Jig would be perfect for the Schiel Museum in NC where James does demostration's of ABO Knapping.
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Zuma on November 10, 2014, 12:04:01 am
Woody Blackwell had a JB jig with him when I first met him years ago.
He is back east now and he may have an idea about the plans.
Eddie do you know Rocky Culbertson? I met him at the NC wildlife expo
at lake Wheeler in Raleigh in Sept. I am sure he knows James.
I had a great chat with DC last year at Flint Ridge.
I bought his Art of Flintknapping back in the 80's at the Natches Mounds.
My only formal training lol Those issues are cool just for Valerie's illustrations.
Zuma
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: wizardgoat on November 10, 2014, 03:56:26 am
sorry for the stupid question, when is the classic? if theres many classics, when is the biggest and best one?
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Pappy on November 10, 2014, 07:38:10 am
Just one I know of wizard and it is always the first full weekend of May. This year it will be the 1/2/3 of May. 18th annual Tennessee Classic, Joe glad to here you are planning on making it back. Missed you last year. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: JW_Halverson on November 10, 2014, 02:39:08 pm
Is it ever too early to start thinking about the Tennessee Classic???
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: mullet on November 10, 2014, 03:39:41 pm
Zoom, I don't think I've met Rocky Culbertson. I've only met a few Rocky's over the years and I don't think he is one of them.
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Pat B on November 10, 2014, 03:49:10 pm
JW, never too early. I started thinking about the 2015 Classic on my way home from the 2014 Classic.
 Joe, looking forward to seeing you again. Are you gonna bring Hawk with you? Definitely bring JW along for the long ride.
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: seabass on November 10, 2014, 04:20:40 pm
I am glad to hear your coming Joe.we missed ya last spring.i say make one of those nice rifle slings.maybe I can win it this time. :)
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Stringman on November 10, 2014, 04:40:07 pm
I think you could about command your price for one of them rifle slings. Make a couple and I will try to swindle ya out of one. So glad to hear youre making plans, lookin forward to sitting around the pit with you again!
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: osage outlaw on November 10, 2014, 08:43:15 pm
sorry for the stupid question, when is the classic? if theres many classics, when is the biggest and best one?


Goat, here is a link to some pictures from the 2014 Classic.  It's a place like no other.  Hundreds of people camp and hang out.  There is bow building, music, target ranges, food, vendors, and great southern hospitality.  Each year new people show up wanting to make their own bow and after a couple of days and help from guys like Matt Wirwicki, Gary Davis, Davey, and many more great teachers they leave with a finished selfbow.  Its the one event I will never miss as long as I can help it.  I'd pawn my wedding ring for gas money if I had to.  The wife would understand, hopefully  ;D

http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,44433.390.html
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Wolf Watcher on November 11, 2014, 05:03:47 am
Forgot to mention that I have the moose brains to tan the hides and the leg sinues.  Maybe should just make rawhide out of the skins for drum covers.  I haven't seen Hawk for a few weeks as he has been working out of town so don't know if he will be coming or not!  In the old days I used to go to a lot of knapins around the country and was always made to feel like an outsider and the same way at sky diving places.  Was really surprised when I drove down the hill to the classic.  As I was getting out of my truck one of the members met me with a big hand shake and that is when I knew this was a special place with fantastic people.  Lots of talent and everyone willing to share their knowledge and skills. Pappy has created something beyond special! The gun slings are not a problem and if anyone has an idea for a pattern let me know.  Two degrees and a foot of snow so the elk hunting should be heating up.  Hope your day goes well.  Joe
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Buckeye Guy on November 11, 2014, 07:54:03 am
Good to hear from ya Joe
Hope we can all make it this year!
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: paoliguy on November 11, 2014, 02:10:30 pm
I put in for vacation already, I hope everything works out. I enjoyed the one time I got to go and know I'll like it even more if I get  to go back!
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: wizardgoat on November 11, 2014, 03:38:40 pm
I'm seriously going totes to make it down. It would be cool
to be part of something like that. Looks like alot of fun!
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: JoJoDapyro on November 11, 2014, 03:51:08 pm
Wizard, Tyke and I also want to go. We are just south of Salt Lake City if you plan on driving. Let us know, we can possibly pool gas money to get there!
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: wizardgoat on November 12, 2014, 04:47:36 am
Sounds good JoJo
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: blackhawk on November 12, 2014, 08:06:11 am
Dang...its November n were already talking classic  :laugh: ...you know its a good thing when folks start talking it up 6 months away  ;D ....its something not to be missed for anyone involved in the primitive skills n arts ;) ...yup...can't waif for the reunion myself  8)
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Parnell on November 12, 2014, 09:48:29 am
I'm glad to see the discussion already, Seems like once Jan.1 hits the next thing I know I'm going to The Classic.
I've got to start working on getting some gifts together...
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Wolf Watcher on November 12, 2014, 10:10:46 am
Thinking about the rain already instead of the 25below weather we have today!  Working on things for the Classic makes these cold winter days go away.  Big fire in the stove, tractor and trucks plugged in and some elk to watch across the way with some "Hell Room" projects going on.  Memories of past Classics like the time the creek washed out and when Eddie and his wife came walking in wearing their floatation devices and finding a truck load of staves in my truck and Greg giving me a special bow for no real reason and the 75 mile drive on the way home with trucks and boats blown over in the median are just a few.  One thing for sure, the Classic gives me something positive to think about when its 25below!  Joe
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: mullet on November 12, 2014, 10:46:59 am
No rain and beautiful weather last year, Joe. Maybe Mother Nature will be tired of the crap she usually dumps on us again this year.
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: paoliguy on November 12, 2014, 01:09:07 pm
I hope so, my socks just dried out from 2013 last Thursday!!!
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Pappy on November 18, 2014, 06:51:03 am
Now yall know it ant going to rain, stop that kind of talk, after the 13th Classic and 17 inches  or pouring rain in 2 days a few inches seem more like a sprinkle to me. :) :) Hope this turns out to be as beautiful as last year was, it sure make my life easier when it is dry but either way it a hoot. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: paoliguy on November 18, 2014, 12:50:51 pm
I bet Pappy's right - it got it all out of it's system by now. It's gonna be perfect weather. And if it's not, I'm coming anyway!
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Pappy on November 19, 2014, 05:13:22 am
Now that's the sprite paoliguy. ;) :) :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Blaflair2 on November 19, 2014, 06:02:36 pm
I'm gonna do my damnest to get down there, 15 hrs one way. I plan on taking Thursday off from work and drive down Thursday night to make it there for Friday! Hopefully that's how it works out
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Pat B on November 19, 2014, 07:50:20 pm
The weather is always perfect at the Tenn Classic!!!  ;D
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Pappy on November 20, 2014, 05:07:01 am
I see you are fro NY, Blaflair2 ,we have several for up that way, from above Buffalo,if you are off Thursday ,then drive down Wed. night, you don't want to miss anything. ;) :)
  Pappy
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Blaflair2 on November 20, 2014, 09:02:14 am
I gotta watch my daughters during the day that Thursday. And I work till midnight, so I'm gonna wake up and watch the kids then when I usually go to work in gonna leave for the classic. Mind u this is pretty far in advance. So it may change. I'll be there
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Blaflair2 on November 20, 2014, 09:03:44 am
Also, I plan on bringing some staves of yeller wood. So I'll have some NY osage for trade, and I really wanna make a bow while I got everyone to babysit me ;0)
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: JEB on November 20, 2014, 09:22:06 am
Went two years ago with the president of our state traditional club.  Had a great time as Pappy and his crew do an outstanding job putting this on.

A group of us are talking about another trip south next year.
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Blaflair2 on November 20, 2014, 10:42:43 am
Man I'm pumped, I'm gonna start save my allowance now  >:D
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Pappy on November 20, 2014, 10:59:05 am
JEB Love to have you back some day. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Pat B on November 20, 2014, 11:21:34 am
I'll be there with bells on!  8)   Haven't made definite plans but if I ride with Bob McMinn again we will probably come at least by Tuesday.
 I'd like to ask again that everyone that is coming to the Classic to bring something for the raffle table. I'm going to try to top my last year offering that brought $700 to the Twin Oaks Club. I hope others will do the same. It is the best way I can think of to help Twin Oaks continue to have the best trad archery event in the east and maybe the country.
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Blaflair2 on November 20, 2014, 01:38:56 pm
I'll try and come with an offering. Gonna be making a few knives shortly
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Stringman on November 20, 2014, 02:46:44 pm
I'm going to try to top my last year offering that brought $700 to the Twin Oaks Club. 

Geesh, Pat!! I'm gonna try to top my $70 mark. Also, I'm not gonna buy anymore tickets for Cipriano. So if lightening does strike twice, I'm keepin it!!   >:D >:D ;)
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Pat B on November 20, 2014, 03:30:31 pm
That's fair enough, Scott.  ;)
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Parnell on November 20, 2014, 04:19:27 pm
I'm gonna do my damnest to get down there, 15 hrs one way. I plan on taking Thursday off from work and drive down Thursday night to make it there for Friday! Hopefully that's how it works out

It's worth 15 hours one way, for sure.
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Blaflair2 on November 20, 2014, 07:05:59 pm
From what I understand it is
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Wolf Watcher on November 20, 2014, 10:09:21 pm
Am planning on bringing several things for the raffle and some things to trade.  Maybe this year I will get enough nerve to try to shoot the courses if someone will lead me around and promise not to laugh at my shooting!  I have always been a hunter but never an archer!  I get a laugh when I wonder if my buddies would allow me to sneak up on some of Pappy's targets!!  Also like to try to make something for Miss Joanie as she is a main cog in the wheel that makes the whole thing run on time.  Pappy has a great crew and they are a very talented bunch.  Guess you can tell I am prejudiced about the farm!  Joe
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Pappy on November 21, 2014, 05:11:37 am
Thanks Joe you are right about Miss Joanie, ;) ;) thanks guy the response is always overwhelming to me, It's my farm and I am there all the time, I know it is special to me but to see all the responses over the years really is touching to me, thank you for that. :-[ ;) :) and Joe if I can get away we can shoot together if you promise not to laugh at my shooting and you can put the old Indian sneak on any of my targets dead or alive. ;) :) :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: paoliguy on November 21, 2014, 01:46:32 pm
I have been to a lot of places but I've never been anywhere that compares to Twin Oaks, it's just the overwhelming hospitality. I'm just some schmuck from Indiana that shouldn't be allowed to fetch a drawknife to the people there yet both times I have been there I was treated like I was some one special. It's a special place full of special people, I look forward to going back.

PS - Wolf Watcher, I'd be glad to shoot with you then we could just laugh at one another!
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Otis on November 21, 2014, 07:01:21 pm
I'll shoot with you Joe any time. We'll make sure Pappy goes too.  He thinks the shoot won't go if he isn't there at the cabin.  It won't hurt for him to be gone for a little while. If something comes up they can text him. He's a high-tech redneck. :)  He's getting pretty good with that phone he's got. ;D ;D ;D

               David
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: JW_Halverson on November 21, 2014, 09:38:17 pm
both times I have been there I was treated like I was some one special.

I can echo that sentiment. 
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: PrimitiveTim on November 21, 2014, 10:31:10 pm
both times I have been there I was treated like I was some one special.

 Same here.  I hadn't met but one person there before going and before I could even walk down the hill I had made new friends.  Once down the hill someone called me over to say hi, then introduced me to someone else.  Before I knew it I was trading with people and cracking jokes.  It was mind blowing putting screen names to faces and personalities.  It's a crazy cool place but it's mostly the atmosphere that I enjoyed.
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: JW_Halverson on November 21, 2014, 11:05:49 pm
When I first met you there, Tim, you had a rather glazed look on your face.  I think it was the initial overdose shock that I recognized from the year before when I had it!
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: neuse on November 22, 2014, 07:39:33 am
I hope to be there, this will be my first time.

Will there be trade items?

Sourwood shoots, Hill Cane, maybe Hazel Shaft material.

Flint Knapping material.

And so on.
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Pat B on November 22, 2014, 09:48:54 am
I'll probably have hill cane and maybe sourwood shoots also.
 There will be more trade items and outright gifts than you can imagine, neuse
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Wolf Watcher on November 22, 2014, 01:26:44 pm
David:  You are right about Pappy being a High Tech Redneck!  Overalls and a cell phone/Camera! :o  Getting to know him a little bit makes a fellow have faith in mankind!  He has gathered a great bunch of people to help make the farm a one of a kind place for all of us primitive minded folks!  One other thing about the Classic is the amount of Very skilled people willing to help teach us how to be successful, not only with making things, but also in how to treat strangers.  You won't go home a stranger!  Joe
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Otis on November 22, 2014, 10:11:29 pm
You are so right Joe.  I met Pappy at Cloverdale years ago.  The whole bunch treated me like family from the start. I finally got shamed into going to the Classic and from there it's been like a home away from home to me.  I dear friends from this chance encounter.  I'm not as talented making things like a lot you on this forum are. I know this. So, I have to feed them when we get together.  :)  Looking forward to seeing you in the spring. It will be a grand time, rain or shine.

                      David
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: mullet on November 23, 2014, 10:43:37 am
Being a good friend is talent enough, Buddy. :)
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Pappy on November 24, 2014, 05:44:47 am
That is so true Eddie, BUT I still like Dave's cooking. ;) :) :) :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Wolf Watcher on December 12, 2014, 01:20:27 pm
The Classic seems a long way away, but I am thinking about it every day.  So far I have two gun slings, a canteen and a couple more planned, some necklaces, a big set of elk horns and some cut up horns for projects, moose and elk hides with frozen brains for tanning, moose and elk meat, a quiver, for donations and trades!  Its not always easy to get away from the chores on this place (horses and a mule) and the trip means 4 days on the road round trip, but I can tell you that the experience of the Classic is worth the effort. Never met a better bunch of talented people in all my years!  Joe
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Wolf Watcher on December 12, 2014, 01:26:12 pm
PS:  I forgot to mention I hope to have my Solberger Jig, his notes and a tape on how to use it!  Also will bring some knapping materials.
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: hedgeapple on December 14, 2014, 12:51:39 am
Joe, I'm so glad you're going to be at the Classic in the Spring.  I missed last year myself.  I'll see that that doesn't happen again.  Cya there brother.
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: osage outlaw on December 14, 2014, 08:10:51 am
Glad you are planning on making it back this year Dave. 

Joe, that sounds like a great list of trade items.
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Pappy on December 15, 2014, 06:02:15 am
WOW Joe you are going to need a bigger truck. :) Dave glad to hear that, missed you last year. :) :)
  Pappy
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Blaflair2 on December 15, 2014, 09:53:02 am
As far as I know the wifey gave me the green light to drive down from central NY. Hope to have a stack of NY gold. And some other goodies. I have a small car. So what's a 15 hr uncomfortable car ride. Lol. I'm gonna try and get out to collect some dead standing osage shortly. It will be dry by May as well. I love the dead standing stuff. Man it's dark. Well I hope to meet everyone that is there. This is my first time and I am more than excited, I plan on soaking up a lot of knowledge.


Also, I want to pass a stave around and make a list of everyone that worked on it, to have them sign it. I'd like to be able to bring some of yalls juju out next year, we'll see.

Anything u guys suggest on bringing? Maybe some venison sausage :0)
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Outbackbob48 on December 15, 2014, 10:05:32 am
Blaflair, sunshine or a good raincoat :o Bob
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Blaflair2 on December 15, 2014, 10:17:00 am
I got a set of frog togs in my car
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: Wolf Watcher on December 15, 2014, 03:31:34 pm
One year Mullet and his wife brought float tubes and swim fins and I think that year they only needed them twice!
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: mullet on December 15, 2014, 03:48:41 pm
Food is always good.
Title: Re: 2015 Classic
Post by: hedgeapple on December 16, 2014, 01:10:23 am
WOW Joe you are going to need a bigger truck. :) Dave glad to hear that, missed you last year. :) :)
  Pappy

Pappy, not as badly as I missed being there, I promise you.