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Title: Design for 2" Lilac (pics added)
Post by: jandersson on October 21, 2014, 08:28:04 pm
Howdy folks,
So far I've only made board bows but my neighbor is cutting down his Lilac and I'm hoping I could make a bow out of it. I don't know exactly what kind of lilac it is but they're 2" in diameter and about 60-70 inches long. What can I make out of this?
Title: Re: Design for 2" Lilac
Post by: Joec123able on October 22, 2014, 01:29:16 am
I've heard good things about lilac never tryed it, hopefully someone will comment and help you out
Title: Re: Design for 2" Lilac
Post by: wizardgoat on October 22, 2014, 01:52:47 am
Same as any sapling bow.
Cut them and seal the ends right away.
There's for sure some sapling bow build alongs on here
Title: Re: Design for 2" Lilac
Post by: DC on October 22, 2014, 02:00:14 am
Apparently it checks real bad.
Title: Re: Design for 2" Lilac
Post by: Blaflair2 on October 22, 2014, 02:09:13 am
I'd leave the bark on cut em long as u can and seal the snot outta the ends
Title: Re: Design for 2" Lilac
Post by: Holten101 on October 22, 2014, 02:42:50 am
Cut, seal, leave bark on, store cold or in moderat to high humidity, cross your fingers and wait, wait, wait.....wait some more, pray and wait.

Good luck with Lilac;-)
Title: Re: Design for 2" Lilac
Post by: mikekeswick on October 22, 2014, 09:32:52 am
Cut, seal, leave bark on, store cold or in moderat to high humidity, cross your fingers and wait, wait, wait.....wait some more, pray and wait.

Good luck with Lilac;-)

Dead on advice.
Lilac is amazing wood...but don't expect to make a bow out of it anytime soon. If you try to reduce it green and dry it quick it will almost certainly check beyond belief!
Title: Re: Design for 2" Lilac
Post by: PatM on October 22, 2014, 10:51:21 am
I have had no trouble with  lilac checking with a rapid, controlled drop in moisture. You just need to control things for about  7-10 days.
Title: Re: Design for 2" Lilac
Post by: jandersson on October 22, 2014, 01:41:54 pm
In my basement it's about 55 deg and probably 50% humidity if I don't run my dehumidifier. Is consistency important?  I'm thinking I can keep it like that for another week or two but it's getting cold here and I'm gonna have to turn on the heat soon. And as I'm writing this I realize this is exactly what PatM is saying :)
Title: Re: Design for 2" Lilac
Post by: PatM on October 22, 2014, 03:12:06 pm
Last year I cut a lilac at the same time of year. I split it in half immediately and removed the outer bark leaving a thin layer on the back. I dipped all ends in Epoxy and then stuck the billets in a plastic garbage bag  for a few days. I then punched some small holes in the bags a few days later. After 10 days I took them out. The heat then started coming on sporadically and then more consistently all winter. I removed the last layer of bark after about a month.
 The billets did not check at all.
Title: Re: Design for 2" Lilac
Post by: jandersson on October 26, 2014, 08:15:44 pm
So I went to get some of it and this is what was the best of it.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h330/geek_usa80/IMGP1085.jpg) (http://s1104.photobucket.com/user/geek_usa80/media/IMGP1085.jpg.html)
The smallest one is probably 60"x 1.5" then you get an idea of how big the others are. Lots of branches, knots and twists. would you guys give any of these a try?  also I have a question about this:
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h330/geek_usa80/IMGP1089.jpg) (http://s1104.photobucket.com/user/geek_usa80/media/IMGP1089.jpg.html)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h330/geek_usa80/IMGP1087.jpg) (http://s1104.photobucket.com/user/geek_usa80/media/IMGP1087.jpg.html)
Should I make this side the belly and  try to cut it off?
Title: Re: Design for 2" Lilac (pics added)
Post by: Zion on October 27, 2014, 02:22:27 am
if the smallest ones that big i'd say you got a lot to work with
Title: Re: Design for 2" Lilac (pics added)
Post by: mikekeswick on October 27, 2014, 03:33:04 am
Pat - That is exactly how I treated my last piece and it still checked. Lilac can be a real pain. I'm glad your experience was different to mine. Lilac needs to be well looked after to dry correctly.
Title: Re: Design for 2" Lilac (pics added)
Post by: Joec123able on October 27, 2014, 09:46:58 am
Every one of those pieces are gonna be pretty difficult it looks like