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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: H Rhodes on October 12, 2014, 02:44:49 pm

Title: odd osage coloration
Post by: H Rhodes on October 12, 2014, 02:44:49 pm
I recently cut a large dead standing osage.  I just made a sweet shooting little bow from the crappiest looking belly split on the tree.  There is some really fine looking bow wood in this tree, but this particular piece had some strange looking discoloration in patches.  I am guessing that there were periods of standing water or at least heavy moisture near the middle of the tree, or maybe some sort of fungal growth.  Whatever the cause, there are patches of reddish brown colorations in this stave.  I tillered right through these areas and found those places to be extremely hard wood - harder than the surrounding yellow wood.  This bow was mostly an experiment to see how this discolored osage would do.  The bow performs well and took very little set.  I was wondering if anyone else had seen this and if you know for sure what caused it. 
Title: Re: odd osage coloration
Post by: H Rhodes on October 12, 2014, 02:48:55 pm
another pic of the reddish patches
Title: Re: odd osage coloration
Post by: burchett.donald on October 12, 2014, 02:59:25 pm
Howard,
             I have a bow that is full of the red streaks and was told it was caused by certain minerals in the soil? It is harder wood and sounds different when worked...
                                                                                                 Don
Title: Re: odd osage coloration
Post by: H Rhodes on October 12, 2014, 03:33:26 pm
Don, i have seen it red streaked before, but this just looks a little different.  This is even spotted in places.  I know these pics are not the best.  I will try and take some better ones later on so that you can see how this looks.  The entire handle of this bow is a brownish color with some reddish hues.  I have never seen any like this before. 
Title: Re: odd osage coloration
Post by: Josh B on October 12, 2014, 05:29:50 pm
I've seen that a few times.  Particularly where the bark has been damaged sometime in the past. Where two trees rub together for example.  Its usually sound wood.  Now if you find a pinkish beige color, that's no good.  You'll know it right off because it's powdery and crumbly.  Josh
Title: Re: odd osage coloration
Post by: osage outlaw on October 12, 2014, 05:47:25 pm
I cut a tree this summer that had similar colors.  Seems like good wood to me.
Title: Re: odd osage coloration
Post by: SLIMBOB on October 12, 2014, 08:23:18 pm
The 2 I made from the Old Wormy stave was colored much the same way as this one.  Very dense and heavy in my case.
Title: Re: odd osage coloration
Post by: RyanR on October 12, 2014, 08:27:47 pm
I have a couple staves like that. The one I have worked seems to be very good Osage.
Title: Re: odd osage coloration
Post by: JoJoDapyro on October 12, 2014, 09:36:38 pm
Not in patches but in whole rings.
Title: Re: odd osage coloration
Post by: Pat B on October 12, 2014, 11:36:52 pm
The osage that I used for Island Girl(from Gun Doc)has red streaks through it and it is very dense, hard wood.
Title: Re: odd osage coloration
Post by: Joec123able on October 13, 2014, 01:10:10 am
The red Osage seems harder to me too. Id like to know why it is.
Title: Re: odd osage coloration
Post by: Buckeye Guy on October 13, 2014, 12:42:44 pm
I don't know all the causes of red in Osage but one of them is fire !
Title: Re: odd osage coloration
Post by: simson on October 13, 2014, 02:25:04 pm
I have osage in my pile which is bright yeller, but some is darker brownish striped. A few is reddish and feels fat, I like that stuff. My idea is it had to do with the available water. Could it be the wood is darker the nearer it grows to a river or lake?
Title: Re: odd osage coloration
Post by: H Rhodes on October 13, 2014, 04:07:35 pm
Well, whatever the reason for it, this brown/red/spotted up piece is good bow wood.  This tree was dead standing and this was a belly split from the smallest "subtrunk" if you know what i mean.  It was from wood close to the center of the main tree.  I think that if the pith of the original heart of the tree gets spongy and soaks up water that maybe  discolors some of the heart wood.  In another couple of hundred years, it may have become decayed wood (at least that is what those other types of trees wood do! ;D)  Osage just seems to get harder and better no matter the effects of weather. 
Title: Re: odd osage coloration
Post by: Joec123able on October 13, 2014, 04:19:45 pm
  Osage just seems to get harder and better no matter the effects of weather.

That's right lol gotta love Osage