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Title: Using pokeweed berries for dye?
Post by: Chad on September 14, 2014, 03:11:37 pm
I'm working on my first bow, not finished yet but I have been trying to think of some ways paint/color it. Its a maple board mollegabet  bow, rawhide backed. I saw a pretty cool turkey feather backing on here that I might do on top of the rawhide. But the belly I haven't made up my mind just yet. I know pokeweed berries have been used quite a bit for dyeing purposes. I was curious if anyone has used it on their bow, or arrows for that matter. Thanks.
Title: Re: Using pokeweed berries for dye?
Post by: Pat B on September 14, 2014, 04:05:34 pm
Berry juice works well for dying bows and arrows but the color is not fast. It has the tendency to fade over time. There may be ways of making it more permanent but I don't know them.
 I do think the berry juice would work best by using alcohol mixed in as the carrier.
Title: Re: Using pokeweed berries for dye?
Post by: Chad on September 14, 2014, 04:59:53 pm
hmm I wouldn't have thought using alcohol but that makes sense, thanks.
Title: Re: Using pokeweed berries for dye?
Post by: Pat B on September 14, 2014, 05:02:46 pm
The alcohol will help the dye penetrate without lifting the grain like water would do.
Title: Re: Using pokeweed berries for dye?
Post by: Chad on September 14, 2014, 05:11:29 pm
I didn't realize that, I thought the reasoning was alcohol penetrated better than water. great info thanks.
Title: Re: Using pokeweed berries for dye?
Post by: Pat B on September 14, 2014, 06:08:18 pm
That too!  ;D
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Post by: PaulN/KS on September 14, 2014, 09:02:23 pm
Use caution as I think poke berries are poisonous.
Title: Re: Using pokeweed berries for dye?
Post by: Chad on September 14, 2014, 10:20:17 pm
I hope I'm not going foraging nerd on you but I have heard conflicting reports on the edibility of the berries, the seeds however are very poisonous along with the root (always) and plant beyond a food high or so (and when red). Although it can be ate when young and supposedly really good when prepared probably (with boiling and changing of water multiple times). But if you get even a little root, your dead. I've never been brave enough to try it. Either way I will definitely be wearing some gloves.
Title: Re: Using pokeweed berries for dye?
Post by: koan on September 15, 2014, 12:12:50 am
My Grandpa swallowed one berry whole (frozen) everyday for years. Older generation round here say it helps with rhumatism. It might have killed him i spose...he was only 89  :o... I have used it for dye done as Pat said.. On osage its not even visable.. On white woods it makes a nice purple but very quickly fades to light pink... I have been meaning to try it on feathers to see what it will do but havent yet.... Brian
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Post by: SLIMBOB on September 15, 2014, 08:39:30 am
I use Prickly Pear Cactus juice over my earth paints to size it.
Title: Re: Using pokeweed berries for dye?
Post by: autologus on September 15, 2014, 09:08:51 am
Use caution as I think poke berries are poisonous.

They are poisonous but you have to eat them to make you sick, it will cause gastrointestinal discomfort.  Getting it on you will not make you sick but will stain you like crazy.

Grady
Title: Re: Using pokeweed berries for dye?
Post by: Chad on September 16, 2014, 08:17:55 pm
My Grandpa swallowed one berry whole (frozen) everyday for years. Older generation round here say it helps with rhumatism. It might have killed him i spose...he was only 89  :o... I have used it for dye done as Pat said.. On osage its not even visable.. On white woods it makes a nice purple but very quickly fades to light pink... I have been meaning to try it on feathers to see what it will do but havent yet.... Brian

Great info....I don't think I want a pink bow....
Title: Re: Using pokeweed berries for dye?
Post by: BarredOwl on September 16, 2014, 10:19:10 pm
I discovered a couple days ago that giant ragweed seed heads will make a deep purplish stain on your hands if you smash them between your fingers.  I rubbed a little on a wood block I had in the back of the pickup and it is still a dark reddish, brownish, purple even a few days later exposed to the sun most of the day.  It's prime time for ragweed here in kansas gonna try it on a little hackberry bow tomorrow.  I'll post pics if anyone is interested.   
Title: Re: Using pokeweed berries for dye?
Post by: Josh Shuck on September 16, 2014, 11:35:39 pm
I ate a pokeweed berry once.  Tasted horrible.  Would not recommend it.
Title: Re: Using pokeweed berries for dye?
Post by: Chad on September 16, 2014, 11:38:01 pm
I discovered a couple days ago that giant ragweed seed heads will make a deep purplish stain on your hands if you smash them between your fingers.  I rubbed a little on a wood block I had in the back of the pickup and it is still a dark reddish, brownish, purple even a few days later exposed to the sun most of the day.  It's prime time for ragweed here in kansas gonna try it on a little hackberry bow tomorrow.  I'll post pics if anyone is interested.
I would be interested, it grows crazy here in Southern Illinois
Title: Re: Using pokeweed berries for dye?
Post by: BarredOwl on September 17, 2014, 07:43:31 pm
I took a little time at lunch to try the Ragweed seeds.  I think I waited too long.  They may have matured a little too much since late last week.  It seemed like they didn't have as much juice in them today as they did late last week.  Don't know what it will look like over time but here it is today.
  (http://C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\My Documents\My Pictures\ragweed stain closeup.JPG)

(http://C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\My Documents\My Pictures\Ragweed Stain half.JPG)
Title: Re: Using pokeweed berries for dye?
Post by: BarredOwl on September 17, 2014, 07:47:28 pm
can't get photos to show.  Can anyone else see them?
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Post by: BarredOwl on September 17, 2014, 07:48:28 pm
and another
Title: Re: Using pokeweed berries for dye?
Post by: DC on September 17, 2014, 08:01:19 pm
Yup, I can see them. That's a nice color. Be interesting to see whether it fades.
Title: Re: Using pokeweed berries for dye?
Post by: PeteC on September 18, 2014, 03:49:52 pm
I've dyed arrows with pokeweed,and they turned out OK. God Bless
Title: Re: Using pokeweed berries for dye?
Post by: Chad on September 18, 2014, 07:53:59 pm
That is the color I am wanted, looks great.