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Title: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??(Pics added)
Post by: HickoryBill on September 06, 2014, 11:47:30 pm
Has anyone worked with or made stabilized corn cob knife scales?? Been lookin at them online..pretty cool but very expensive..I saw a post where a guy made some..Dried out a corn cob..split it down the middle and "stabilized" it in a a 3:1 ratio mixture of miniwax wood stabilizer.boiled linseed oil,and shellac..Soaked for 4 days and then let dry..just wondering if anyone has worked with/ tried this..I got some corn cob drying now...Thanks Bill
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??
Post by: longbow man on September 08, 2014, 05:10:13 pm
    Haven't tried that method myself but I've been thinking on using epoxy. Would like to try using a vacuum to draw the epoxy in but don't know enough about that yet. Corncobs do look great though and I want to try a hidden tang. Maybe use a quarter for the cap.
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??
Post by: Pat B on September 08, 2014, 05:48:09 pm
Bill, have you tried soaking the corn cob scales in Massey finish? It is epoxy thinned with acetone. As long as the acetone doesn't evaporate(keep sealed while soaking the dried cob scales) the epoxy won't set up. Once it does evaporate the epoxy sets like normal. 
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??
Post by: HickoryBill on September 08, 2014, 07:38:50 pm
I haven't tried epoxy yet...I just pulled my "Scales" from the mixture I mentioned...Im gonna let them dry for a few days and see how it goes
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??(updated)
Post by: HickoryBill on September 09, 2014, 09:32:14 pm
Ok an update: I pulled the future knife scales out of my mixture yesterday...I took them to work and let them sit in our paint booth during the bake cycle(3 times) and the dried out pretty good..I took them home and began filling the voids with gel super glue..Tomorrow I"ll begin shaping and sanding....NOTE:::::: Do Not ever, and I mean ever try to dry out a Corn cob in the microwave:::Ask me how I know....... ::) ::)
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??
Post by: Billinthedesert on September 16, 2014, 02:42:40 pm
Look forward to seeing an image of your finished cobs!
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??( knife done pics added)
Post by: HickoryBill on September 17, 2014, 08:03:12 pm
Well I got the scales, knife and sheath all done...Man those scales were a PAIN!.. If I ever do anymore ill make myself a vacuum chamber.. Overall I'm pretty happy with the whole package...
The knife blade is made from an old file.. Scales are applied with epoxy and silver pins
Here are the pics:
 (http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee451/HickoryBill/3a97be24-630e-4c03-87f3-9539ece8d62b_zps56ab007c.jpg) (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/HickoryBill/media/3a97be24-630e-4c03-87f3-9539ece8d62b_zps56ab007c.jpg.html)
(http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee451/HickoryBill/0917141820_zpsa814e260.jpg) (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/HickoryBill/media/0917141820_zpsa814e260.jpg.html)
(http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee451/HickoryBill/1ba6ac8b-ae15-42d7-b6fb-864c04023934_zpsb22a437f.jpg) (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/HickoryBill/media/1ba6ac8b-ae15-42d7-b6fb-864c04023934_zpsb22a437f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??
Post by: Danzn Bar on September 17, 2014, 08:07:48 pm
 :o  8)  Those look really good...
DBar
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??
Post by: DC on September 17, 2014, 08:08:11 pm
They look really cool! I have to admit I was a little dubious but they turned out great. Oh, the blade is nice too >:D
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??
Post by: Billinthedesert on September 17, 2014, 08:09:03 pm
Bill, very nice job! Those things look positively reptilian!
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??
Post by: straightarrow on September 17, 2014, 08:37:32 pm
Looks pretty sweet Bill. Looks like scales! I like it
Jon
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??
Post by: HickoryBill on September 17, 2014, 08:44:58 pm
Thanks guys..I forgot to add that after the cob scales dried out I filled all the leftover voids with super glue..I used 4 tubes all together..After the glue was cured up I wet sanded with 2000 grit paper and polished..
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??
Post by: mullet on September 17, 2014, 09:26:28 pm
Wow, I like that look, I'll have to try that.
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??
Post by: Auggie on September 17, 2014, 09:33:14 pm
Very cool! A work of eye candy!
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??
Post by: Pat B on September 17, 2014, 11:03:53 pm
Very cool looking sales and an incredible knife and sheath combo.
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??
Post by: Pappy on September 18, 2014, 05:29:45 am
 ??? can't see the pictures. :(
  Pappy
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??
Post by: Stoker on September 18, 2014, 10:15:09 am
That turned out real nice Bill...
Thanks leroy
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??
Post by: Pappy on September 18, 2014, 10:34:50 am
O man ,for some reason I can see them now,man they turned out sweet,beautiful work. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??(Pics added)
Post by: HickoryBill on September 18, 2014, 11:06:12 am
Thanks Pat,Leroy,Pappy...
I say this about almost every knife I make but,I think Im gonna keep this one as my personal knife..After all I did have ALOT of work into it..Man does it hold a wicked edge!!!!
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??(Pics added)
Post by: longbow man on September 22, 2014, 01:54:30 pm
     Mighty pretty. Love the knife profile. Should be mine.
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??(Pics added)
Post by: stickbender on September 22, 2014, 06:17:55 pm

     Beautiful! 8) ;)  Now, lets see you put them on a bow handle! ;)  I think that would really set it off.  Especially, a reflex/deflex type bow! ;)  Like one of Steve Parkers' bows!
                                    Wayne
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??(Pics added)
Post by: stickbender on September 22, 2014, 06:25:08 pm

     If you have one of the vacuum sealers, some of them come with, or you can order the vacuum jars.  That could be used, and you wouldn't have to try to make one. ;)
                                    Wayne
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??(updated)
Post by: okiecountryboy on September 23, 2014, 06:09:41 am
Ok an update: I pulled the future knife scales out of my mixture yesterday...I took them to work and let them sit in our paint booth during the bake cycle(3 times) and the dried out pretty good..I took them home and began filling the voids with gel super glue..Tomorrow I"ll begin shaping and sanding....NOTE:::::: Do Not ever, and I mean ever try to dry out a Corn cob in the microwave:::Ask me how I know....... ::) ::)

Absolutely sexy scale handle and sheath combo!
Now,....about that microwave story, you have got to post! >:D
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??(Pics added)
Post by: stickbender on September 23, 2014, 09:52:57 am
      Yeah, the microwave story, and if any still exist, photos of the ...... uh...... event! ;)

                                    Wayne
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??(Pics added)
Post by: Stoker on September 23, 2014, 03:08:44 pm

     If you have one of the vacuum sealers, some of them come with, or you can order the vacuum jars.  That could be used, and you wouldn't have to try to make one. ;)
                                    Wayne

The first foodsaver I bought many years ago came with the cover for a mason jar... Never used it might have one kicking around somewhere.... ONE SMALL PROBLEM... you will have to put a air releive valve in the line as not to suck the liquid up the line can't go to full power right away.... Bill if you don't mind I'll post a pic of my setup...

Drying of the cob?? Are you drying the raw cob or the one that has been soaked in the juice??  Raw/cooked cob use a dehydrater Yes/No  just guessing

We are going to need details on the microwave story/ pics...

Thanks Leroy

Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??(Pics added)
Post by: HickoryBill on September 23, 2014, 07:11:28 pm
Long story short I nuked it to long..Big smelly mess and a blackened Microwave inside..I got it cleaned but it still smells like a burnt corn cob..Still in the dog house from 3 weeks ago..WARNING! WARNING!..DONT TRY IT!!!
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??(Pics added)
Post by: stickbender on September 24, 2014, 01:21:56 am

     So I take it has been cold summer since then? ;)  ::)

                                     wayne
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??(Pics added)
Post by: Stoker on September 24, 2014, 10:13:51 am
Funny story Bill.... Feel your pain.. was making fluflus one day on the kitchen table.. Had a paper bag with rubber blunts in it.. Daughter comes by makes to popcorn.. 1/4 cup popcorn in a paper bag 2 minutes on high easy peasy right... We bs for a while she pops a bag in the mic and walks away....... I go to put the blunts on the arrows open bag and I'm looking at popcorn :o :o :o..... Look at microwave FIRE!!!!! Open the front door grab the mic and toss it out on the front lawn STINK wow what a smell.... Got a new one.. >:(

Used a mason jar with a plastic lid that fit good (kraft miracle whip) put a plastic hose barb in with a back nut to seal tight.. hose runs up to a tee off the tee use a air valve to control amount of vacuum.. Reason - when you start up at full pressure the pressure creates a lot of bubbles and you will suck the juice to your vac pump... Slow and steady wins the race... Got lucky I own a vac pump from when I did asbestoes work in the old days....
Thanks Leroy
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??(Pics added)
Post by: MWirwicki on October 16, 2014, 03:28:04 pm
Nice looking scales, Bill!  What a great idea.
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??(Pics added)
Post by: mullet on October 22, 2014, 12:02:35 pm
It might work with one of Ziplocks vacuum bags and their hand pump you can buy at the grocery store.
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??(Pics added)
Post by: cookwood on January 29, 2015, 05:44:43 am
Wow!  Those handles look wild. Great looking knife.
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??(Pics added)
Post by: Tree_Ninja on January 29, 2015, 09:51:09 am
It almost looks like a rattlesnake tail. I bet it would look great as string nocks on a snakey bow with skins.
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??(Pics added)
Post by: JW_Halverson on January 29, 2015, 05:57:44 pm
It almost looks like a rattlesnake tail. I bet it would look great as string nocks on a snakey bow with skins.

Brilliant idea!
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??(Pics added)
Post by: Tree_Ninja on January 30, 2015, 12:36:17 pm
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Brilliant idea!

   I get them once in a while. Hopefully someone makes one. I wonder what other materials can be stabilized in this manner....
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??(Pics added)
Post by: JW_Halverson on January 30, 2015, 09:36:33 pm
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Brilliant idea!

   I get them once in a while. Hopefully someone makes one. I wonder what other materials can be stabilized in this manner....

Hehehe, buffalo chips!

I ain't kidding either.  anyone wanna try it, I will go to Custer State Park and pick up a nice dry patty for you!
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??(Pics added)
Post by: vinemaplebows on February 02, 2015, 04:24:15 pm
Long story short I nuked it to long..Big smelly mess and a blackened Microwave inside..I got it cleaned but it still smells like a burnt corn cob..Still in the dog house from 3 weeks ago..WARNING! WARNING!..DONT TRY IT!!!

Try it on defrost mode, checking every 3-5 minutes depending on power. I use this method forr wood! ;)
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??(Pics added)
Post by: PeteC on February 06, 2015, 08:17:49 pm
Wow! That is a nice knife. Great job. God Bless
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??(Pics added)
Post by: crooketarrow on March 12, 2015, 12:41:11 pm
 I agree those look outstanding scales and knife match really cool.
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??(Pics added)
Post by: cookwood on April 11, 2015, 08:07:03 am
Those scales are sweet. I've been using layered burlap but it looks like I am gonna have to get some corn.
Title: Re: Stabilized corn cob knife scales??(Pics added)
Post by: bronco611 on April 12, 2015, 02:23:07 pm
Those scales look great.has anyone ever though of using the corn cob scales as accent piece inlays on bows or a forearm of a rifle or shot gun?-