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Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: YosemiteBen on August 06, 2014, 07:39:01 pm

Title: A-typical Buck?
Post by: YosemiteBen on August 06, 2014, 07:39:01 pm
A visitor took this pic in the Mirror Lake are of Yosemite Valley in Yosemite National Park. Thoughts?
Title: Re: A-typical Buck?
Post by: bubby on August 06, 2014, 07:41:37 pm
sometimes if they damage their scrotum it can cause weird stuff with their horns, but it may be genetic and we need to get that out off the gene pool, how about this weekend >:D
Title: Re: A-typical Buck?
Post by: osage outlaw on August 06, 2014, 08:09:12 pm
Looks like what they call a cactus buck. 
Title: Re: A-typical Buck?
Post by: Badly Bent on August 06, 2014, 08:44:49 pm
Saw a mount of one like that when visiting a friend in Montana, his son had taken it during rifle season there.
Title: Re: A-typical Buck?
Post by: Trapper Rob on August 06, 2014, 10:07:23 pm
I'm with Bubby I'll try to get a flight Bub ASAP your going to need help. ;D
Title: Re: A-typical Buck?
Post by: nclonghunter on August 06, 2014, 10:43:12 pm
May have just woke up and hasn't had time to straighten up some...

Never seen one like that, that for posting.
Title: Re: A-typical Buck?
Post by: Zuma on August 06, 2014, 10:48:24 pm
Ben,
That little guy is still in velvet. By hunting season next year
 he'll look like this.
Zuma
Title: Re: A-typical Buck?
Post by: wildman on August 06, 2014, 11:00:19 pm
I'm with Clint. I have heard them called cactus bucks and coral bucks. I heard what causes it and have a friend in In. who has a shed. I cannot recall what makes it happens. Damaged scrotum can make all sorts of bad things happen!!! >:D
Title: Re: A-typical Buck?
Post by: mullet on August 06, 2014, 11:15:59 pm
Wow! What a mess. Lots of knife handles there.
Title: Re: A-typical Buck?
Post by: Bone pile on August 07, 2014, 08:06:36 am
dread locks, Jamaican deer mon  ::)
Title: Re: A-typical Buck?
Post by: Pat B on August 07, 2014, 09:13:18 am
Talk about a Bone Pile!  ;D
Title: Re: A-typical Buck?
Post by: medicinewheel on August 08, 2014, 05:55:12 am
These are named wig bucks (Perückenbock) in Germany; it's caused by a damage of the testicles.
As far as I know they will also not brush of the velvet due to a lack of hormones.
Here is an extreme example of a roedeer:



Title: Re: A-typical Buck?
Post by: Weylin on August 08, 2014, 02:31:28 pm
These are named wig bucks (Perückenbock) in Germany; it's caused by a damage of the testicles.
As far as I know they will also not brush of the velvet due to a lack of hormones.
Here is an extreme example of a roedeer:

Ok, I thought you were pulling our legs with that one. Looks like someone slapped a wig on a skull. I had to google it and now i believe you. That's crazy.
Title: Re: A-typical Buck?
Post by: mullet on August 08, 2014, 08:45:15 pm
I did the same thing, Weylin ;D.
Title: Re: A-typical Buck?
Post by: bow101 on August 08, 2014, 11:16:24 pm
sometimes if they damage their scrotum it can cause weird stuff with their horns, but it may be genetic and we need to get that out off the gene pool, how about this weekend >:D
................... :) :laugh: :) :laugh: :) :laugh:   strange indeed
Title: Re: A-typical Buck?
Post by: medicinewheel on August 09, 2014, 11:14:07 am
@Weylin & mullet:

Hey I'll remember that: you guys don't trust me!!!  8) 8) 8)

I once was a guest in a forester's house in eastern Poland who had a mount of one he killed on the wall; I knew what they were called but he explained me what actually caused that. He says they are very rare, and this one had no testicles at all.
This is the one:

Title: Re: A-typical Buck?
Post by: GaryR on August 09, 2014, 02:27:03 pm
I would assume no testicles is a birth defect, if he was born with them and they were accidentally removed (torn off) I would imagine death from loss of blood would soon follow. Very strange, I'll probably never see one. 
Title: Re: A-typical Buck?
Post by: medicinewheel on August 10, 2014, 07:08:56 am
Gary, it was ten years ago, but if I remember the forester's explanation correctly you are right: they are born that way. I have seen thousands of roe deer, never saw one like that, so you are probably right there, too: you most likely will never see one.
Title: Re: A-typical Buck?
Post by: medicinewheel on August 10, 2014, 07:11:19 am
PS:

What I do remember correctly: this was one extraordinarily big buck, and the guy said that's normal for them.
Title: Re: A-typical Buck?
Post by: Patches on August 11, 2014, 02:27:35 pm
The condition is caused by testosterone levels that are too low, be it from scrotal injury or other causes.  These deer have enough testosterone in their body to grow antlers, but not enought o shed the antler or even get out of the velvet stage.  So they keep the velvet voered antlers from one year utnilt he next, when they grow another set of antlers around the set from last year, giving it the "cactus" appearance.  There was a "cactus buck" killed here in Missouri in 2011 or 2012 that was actually a doe.