Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: NOMADIC PIRATE on July 27, 2014, 06:08:41 pm
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How much can a non perfect osage back withstand ?
I'm working on an Osage stave, but the guy I traded it for really hacked the back up, all kind of gauges everywhere,
I'll eventually back it with Rawhide, but how much do I need to get the back in shape ?
I know I don't have the expertise to chase a ring nicely so I like to know how much I can get away with ;D ;D ;D ;D
thanks in advance
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Rawhide can salvage a great deal, buddy. With your experience, I don't think the learning curve on chasing a ring would be all that steep.
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Manny I have no doubt you are capable of chasing a ring. Osage really needs a good non violated back. Rawhide will help, but chasing a ring will make it unnecessary.
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Agree. Chase a new ring. You will be glad you did. This bow will benefit as will your future bows as a result.
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Chase it
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My kids can chase an osage ring. I'm sure you can to. The guy you got it from probably just ripped the sapwood off quickly with the thought that you would take it down to a clean ring.
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Yeah, the one I bought last year came with the sapwood ripped off via saw, I did all the actual chasing. Seemed like a good compromise to me :)
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Manny, even though osage is very strong it will at lease lift a splinter if he back isn't one good ring. A good sharp scraper will get you through a ring pretty quickly but can be gentle enough to finesse the perfectly chased ring. Bite the bullet and chase the ring. ;)
Rawhide does wonders but it will not hold a doomed bow together. Don't ask me how I know! ::)
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I know what Pat is saying.... ::) Rawhide only covers a flaw.....Chase a ring and get the most out of that limb without adding extra weight. :) ;)
DBar
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I will stick my neck out here and say that there are exceptions with having a "single" ring for the back. Many times teaching bow making I have had people get discouraged with chasing a ring and violating a ring in the process. It is quite successful to have two different rings if they come together in the static handle area. I have done this many times because a beginner is about to give up on their bow because of violating a ring. Now you guys can let me have it. I got thick skin. :D
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I will stick my neck out here and say that there are exceptions with having a "single" ring for the back. Many times teaching bow making I have had people get discouraged with chasing a ring and violating a ring in the process. It is quite successful to have two different rings if they come together in the static handle area. I have done this many times because a beginner is about to give up on their bow because of violating a ring. Now you guys can let me have it. I got thick skin. :D
You are exactly right IMO Jon.....................As long its in the "no bend" handle area your good to go!
Dbar
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Chase a ring Manny. If I can manage it so can you ;D
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Chase a ring, Manny. My site may help. Jawge
http://georgeandjoni.home.comcast.net/~georgeandjoni/osage.html
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I will stick my neck out here and say that there are exceptions with having a "single" ring for the back. Many times teaching bow making I have had people get discouraged with chasing a ring and violating a ring in the process. It is quite successful to have two different rings if they come together in the static handle area. I have done this many times because a beginner is about to give up on their bow because of violating a ring. Now you guys can let me have it. I got thick skin. :D
I agree with you 100% Jon. I have a character stave roughed out that had paper thin rings. I think I skipped 3 rings in the non bending handle area. A couple of years ago at the Classic a guy showed me his bow that had violations all over the limbs. The rings were super thin. He said he sanded the back with very fine grit sandpaper and soaked it in superglue. The bow was his daily shooter. You could tell it had seen a lot of use and yet it was holding together.
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If I can chase a ring on Kentucky coffee tree you can chase one on osage.
Grady
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I'm working the sides down right now so I can see the rings and take it down to bow dimentions so there's less back to work on ;D ;D ;D ;D
i don't even know if this stave will make a bow right now, he did a super hacking job around a Knot and made a snake where wasn't necessary, I'll post pictures when iI get the stave to a better looking shape
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The more I work on this stave the less confident I get.
I've started the ring chasing and seems to be a pretty easy and straight forward thing, on the other hand the roughing out around the knot really scares me, don't understand why he did it that way :o :o
plan for this bow was to make a take down since the roughting out at the handle is really bad too, but now i just don't know if I put more hours in it.
BTW, anyone out there as 2 billets to make an Osage take down ?
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Post a couple pics manny. Maybe folks can better help ya out .
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Put up one of your bows for trade and you'll have a bunch of guys rushing out on an Osage clear cutting spree.
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Manny take some pics of the osage and that will help. I have some extra dry osage billets.
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Put up one of your bows for trade and you'll have a bunch of guys rushing out on an Osage clear cutting spree.
;D ;D ;D ;D well, I sold all my old bows, all i have now is a YEW bow that I put a big nick on the side of the sapwood taking a big tumble hunting Saturday :( :( :( so I'm not so sure of it's integrity, I just finished a Guava ELB and that is now my only hunter.
I think I'll put this Osage away again and maybe make a kid bow in the future.
I just pulled a Wine Maple stave and put a good amount of work in it,
if all goes to plans it's gonna be a......... 58" rawhide backed, reflex deflex, mollegabet with a Hill style grip,...is that enough of a plan ? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I'm still looking for Osage Billets to make a take down anyway ;)
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I just pulled a Wine Maple stave and put a good amount of work in it,
if all goes to plans it's gonna be a......... 58" rawhide backed, reflex deflex, mollegabet with a Hill style grip,...is that enough of a plan ? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Don't forget to post that if she survives...my mid 50's length r/d Molly's,and molly curves are usually my main go to hunting bows...but I leave the hill style handle out cus that ain't my style ;)