Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: simson on July 25, 2014, 09:49:08 am
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This bow is asymmetrical with a positive tiller of about 7 mm. Limbs are dead flat on belly, on the back a shallow crown. The fades are 6” long (widest part of string – to handle). String groove filed into the levers. It was a nice clean stave, only two pin knots with no problems.
Recurves are steam bent, string alignment corrected with steam + dry heat.
Finish will be several coats of hardening oil ( only the first is on yet).
The bow is not heattreated.
Further info of the buildalong can be found here:
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,47426.0.html
The bow is 58½” long ntn, brace 5¼”
Mass is 495 grams = 17½oz
Tips are brown horn, arrow plate is bone
Glued on handle is plum heartwood
String is 425X – 6 strands
Back
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/osage%20staic%20plum%20handle/P1020757_zps8313531c.jpg)
Belly
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/osage%20staic%20plum%20handle/P1020758_zps94e4d646.jpg)
Unbraced
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/osage%20staic%20plum%20handle/P1020756_zps40c3710f.jpg)
Braced from two sides (note the different appearance)
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/osage%20staic%20plum%20handle/P1020762_zps7bb13115.jpg)
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/osage%20staic%20plum%20handle/P1020763_zps7ee8b609.jpg)
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/osage%20staic%20plum%20handle/P1020768_zpse5b0a639.jpg)
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/osage%20staic%20plum%20handle/P1020764_zpsd816a6a6.jpg)
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/osage%20staic%20plum%20handle/Tillerosageplumhandle2_zpsda74358f.jpg)
The handle
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/osage%20staic%20plum%20handle/P1020733_zps46b8b306.jpg)
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/osage%20staic%20plum%20handle/P1020730_zps709035e7.jpg)
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/osage%20staic%20plum%20handle/P1020731_zpsa3594d29.jpg)
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/osage%20staic%20plum%20handle/P1020732_zpsdde3bfaa.jpg)
The tips
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/osage%20staic%20plum%20handle/P1020734_zps708663a3.jpg)
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/osage%20staic%20plum%20handle/P1020744_zps2537bf30.jpg)
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/osage%20staic%20plum%20handle/P1020739_zpsb3a76f19.jpg)
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/osage%20staic%20plum%20handle/P1020761_zps0521955e.jpg)
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/osage%20staic%20plum%20handle/P1020759_zpsce0c1f06.jpg)
Couldn't resist for that look s of green glass ... (sorry)
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/osage%20staic%20plum%20handle/P1020746_zps24ecc3b6.jpg)
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/osage%20staic%20plum%20handle/P1020748_zpsc8e4d3cd.jpg)
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/osage%20staic%20plum%20handle/P1020749_zpscca205a4.jpg)
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Another cool bow, Simon. Very nice! 8)
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Great job Simon I really like that grip.
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I get all proud of a bow I am building then get on here and, oh boy Simson made another. I feel like Im making pretty fire wood next to you guys! :laugh: Seriously though, I strive to better my skills so that hopefully I can start coming to par with all the master craftsman on here. Thank you for posting such a beautiful bow, plus all the other gorgeous ones Ive seen from you.
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Now that is a nice looking bow. Got to try one of them one of these days. Thanks for sharing.
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Beautiful results, I really like that string groove on the belly
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A little too refined for my taste Simon ;D ;D ;D ;D
Just kidding brother, excellent bow!! I love everything about it and I bet it is a beauty to shoot as well. Thanks for posting this and a special thanks for the taking the time to do the build along as well, insights into a master's methods
are another thing about this site that keeps me coming back. :)
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Thanks gentlemen!
makes me happy when you enjoyed the buildalong
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Excellent bow and tiller as usual
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Real nice bow. Did you strap the tips when you bent them? I've only tried this a couple of times and failed to get things lined up adequately. I have some really clean staves now, was thinking I might give it another shot. Not sure if I'd use steam, boil or use dry heat though.
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Thanks for sharing Simon! That turned out perfect!!!
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Awesome!Your finish work is outstanding...just curious how does a bow like that compare to one of your hollow limb designs?-Hammertime
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Beautiful! Love those "green glass" photos.
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Simson,
Beautiful job on everything from the build along, finished bow and photo's... It was class A 8)...
Don
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Your bows are always killer. :)
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Are there bow-making steroids? Because you must be on them - not possible to turn out so many really great bows! (Very nicely done!)
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that handle looks supppper graceful...as does the rest of the bow, nicely done 8)
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That is nice, Simon and that's a cool, glass picture.
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I see this bow and a tear comes to my eye ;D such a cool bow!
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Thanks gents for your nice compliments!
Real nice bow. Did you strap the tips when you bent them? I've only tried this a couple of times and failed to get things lined up adequately. I have some really clean staves now, was thinking I might give it another shot. Not sure if I'd use steam, boil or use dry heat though.
Tips Strap: sometimes I do sometimes not, on this one I did. I use a simple metal sheet with a hook (for fixing at the tips). Having no assistant, I usually clamp it by hand as good as possible to the stave and let the bow come falling in the caul.
Recurving: IMO steam bending is by far the best. The thicker the stave - the longer steaming. Here I did about 30 min.
I've seen lot of guys just using a pot with alu foil, this never worked for me. I want an accurate process which makes possible to estimate the result. Never did boiling (stave in water). Dry heat for corrections String alignment, untwisting or heattreatment. Good luck on yours!
Awesome!Your finish work is outstanding...just curious how does a bow like that compare to one of your hollow limb designs?-Hammertime
That is a really interesting question, I often asked myself. But its hard to compare apples with pears.
My wife is shooting three bows from me
1. osage static 40/28
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,40337.0.html
2. Elder HLD 40/28
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,44623.0.html
3. Elm 45 /28
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,46019.0.html
I could measure the speed from the first two, fortunately they both have the same weight and were shot with the same arrows. First I couldn't believe what I saw - the elder HLD was on average 10-12 fps faster than the osage static!
My wife draws only to 25 or 26", so there is a great unused potential on that bows, or call them overbuilt.
The elder was at 165, the osage at 155 fps.
Now I'm hunting for a stave to make a osage HLD static, til now I found none.
....... But one day, buddy ....
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She is a right looker, nice bow as usual 8)
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Simon, if you like steam bending more, try using a Microwave oven. Two hours of steaming done in 45 seconds.
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Fantastic and outstanding bow you'vre got there. I'm really impressed. Thanks for sharing.
:)
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I can't wait to see your osage hollow limb design...
Mullet, I tried using a microwave for steaming, but my bow wouldn't fit in the microwave. :-\
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Simon, if you like steam bending more, try using a Microwave oven. Two hours of steaming done in 45 seconds.
Eddie, I really can't imagine how that is to be done!
Cut a hole in the oven? Isn't that dangerous cause the waves?
Point me in the right direction, I'm interested.
And thanks everybody for your comments!
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There was an article on how to cut a hole through both sides of a microwave and stuff rags etc around the object being "steamed" to seal it. It was in a PA issue from years ago.
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There was an article on how to cut a hole through both sides of a microwave and stuff rags etc around the object being "steamed" to seal it. It was in a PA issue from years ago.
Really!? Wow, that's crazy. I agree with simson, sounds dangerous because of the waves.
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microwave bending
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,32623.msg431437.html#msg431437
:o
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Yeah, there was a disclaimer with the article.
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i always like to see you work. thats another great bow, well done
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Nice!!!
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Dang nice.
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Very nice Sir. Always inspiring.
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Thanks again Gentlemen!
Is anyone here, who worked with that microwave thing (see post mullet)?
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I dont work with a microwave at all, but I like your bow a lot..... 8)