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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: SA Bowyer on July 10, 2014, 09:52:05 pm

Title: My work.
Post by: SA Bowyer on July 10, 2014, 09:52:05 pm

HI! Im new in here! Im form Poland and im making bows for 2 years now.
I want to show off my work to more people interested in trad. archery and maybe get some useful tips.
I hope you like it:)

1.Beech board 62" NTN 50#@28",water based stain , beeswax, leather handle and shelf, a'la micarta tips with white plastic layer.
(http://images65.fotosik.pl/1115/54562e7570f93c1c.jpg)
(http://images65.fotosik.pl/1115/87e5a589afe0dd41.jpg)
(http://images62.fotosik.pl/1141/afd851f6855cf997.jpg)
(http://images64.fotosik.pl/1140/d2f21265b32b8481.jpg)
(http://images62.fotosik.pl/1145/43219297dd0faec9.jpg)
(http://images63.fotosik.pl/1112/6ef8184acae97edf.jpg)

2.Hickory. Lenght 60" NTN draw weight: 50#@28" yew tips, water based stain ,beeswax, leather shelf , fur string silencers, dacron b50 string.
(http://images63.fotosik.pl/1081/e76271838774e4da.jpg)
(http://images65.fotosik.pl/1084/929e4289b4e15a11.jpg)
(http://images63.fotosik.pl/1081/c0fab2f97c946e88.jpg)
(http://images61.fotosik.pl/1082/98a6219ab391ccdb.jpg)
(http://images65.fotosik.pl/1084/bc54df2a14c3a626.jpg)
(http://images65.fotosik.pl/1084/b759f821ae2b2b5a.jpg)

And some short clip about the bow:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxQ9cXOg83I

3. Hickory. 60" NTN 45#@30" Standard finish, yew, leather ,beeswax, dacron.
(http://images65.fotosik.pl/1141/a3df3ccb05c81f26.jpg)
(http://images61.fotosik.pl/1138/b6323b98720e2e0f.jpg)
(http://images64.fotosik.pl/1140/807f3882119f1650.jpg)
(http://images62.fotosik.pl/1141/10f7b73b04221ec5.jpg)
(http://images64.fotosik.pl/1140/75767e8177a8aa3c.jpg)

Title: Re: My work.
Post by: coyote1956 on July 10, 2014, 10:06:17 pm

Sweet Bow  I like it, luv the wood bows you  guys make and good to hear from fellow archers and bowyers overseas.   Looks nice and details are sharp, thanks for sharing, Ken

Title: Re: My work.
Post by: JW_Halverson on July 10, 2014, 10:12:43 pm

We have now had several bowyers from Poland post their work.  In every case the workmanship is exceedingly fine.  Must be something in the water?

Thanks for sharing, maybe we should pick up some tips from you!

Title: Re: My work.
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on July 10, 2014, 10:20:04 pm

Welcome aboard. Nice clean work.

Title: Re: My work.
Post by: Trapper Rob on July 10, 2014, 10:22:35 pm

Fine looking bows.

Title: Re: My work.
Post by: jeffhalfrack on July 10, 2014, 10:24:20 pm

very nice your handle and fades are very unique tips are great  these bows bring things to a new level JeffW

Title: Re: My work.
Post by: Lee Lobbestael on July 10, 2014, 10:27:41 pm

Wow those things are really doing some work! They look awesome! Bet they are fast. How much set did those hickory bows take? Is it fairly dry in Poland?

Title: Re: My work.
Post by: JonW on July 10, 2014, 10:28:14 pm

Very nice work. Look forward to seeing more.

Title: Re: My work.
Post by: tallpine on July 10, 2014, 10:31:24 pm

Very nice work, Welcome

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Post by: Badger on July 10, 2014, 10:36:24 pm

  Very nice work, welcome to PA,

Title: Re: My work.
Post by: osage outlaw on July 10, 2014, 10:46:03 pm

Welcome to PA.  Great looking bows!

Title: Re: My work.
Post by: mwosborn on July 10, 2014, 10:56:05 pm

Those are some fine bows!  Welcome.

Title: Re: My work.
Post by: missilemaster on July 10, 2014, 11:09:08 pm

I have never seen a bow come out of Europe that I did not like!  Great work!

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Post by: VicNova on July 10, 2014, 11:15:36 pm

You are quite the craftsman! Superb bows!

Title: Re: My work.
Post by: Badly Bent on July 10, 2014, 11:24:09 pm

Good to have you here SA Bowyer. :)  Those bows are very nice indeed, your tillering skill looks top notch and your bows are pleasing to the eye as well. Hope to see more of your work.

Title: Re: My work.
Post by: 4dog on July 11, 2014, 02:06:06 am

love all three...straight up arrow throwin machines..no frills just darn good work!

Title: Re: My work.
Post by: Zion on July 11, 2014, 03:16:55 am

those look like some great bows, all three look solid, i like the last one

Title: Re: My work.
Post by: Pappy on July 11, 2014, 05:09:27 am

Welcome to PA,nice work,looking forward to seeing more. :)
 Pappy

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Post by: Aaron H on July 11, 2014, 08:45:14 am

Beautiful bows.  Great craftsmanship, and great photos as well

Title: Re: My work.
Post by: okie64 on July 11, 2014, 09:55:52 am

Great looking bows and very nice camera work!

Title: Re: My work.
Post by: IdahoMatt on July 11, 2014, 10:25:46 am

Welcome to the fun.  Those are a couple of really nice bows there.  Fantastic job.  The finish work looks impeccable.  Hope to see more of your work soon.

Title: Re: My work.
Post by: Will H on July 11, 2014, 11:12:23 am

Welcome to PA! Nice work!!!

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Post by: SLIMBOB on July 11, 2014, 11:28:06 am

Welcome Sir.  Nice work, all of 'em!

Title: Re: My work.
Post by: SA Bowyer on July 14, 2014, 06:28:47 am

Thank you for Your appreciation guys, its very ecouraging. I cant wait to make more bows.

As for my work, now , my main concern is the set of my bows. I know some say its not a problem, that SET HAPPENS but i just dont wont it in my bows. I assume that most of You guys think simmilar:)
The last hickory one took the most...
Ive read some more info about tillering and heat treating and im gonna introduce this tips to my new projects, i hope for good results.
Now I have few staves to reduce but for me it is the less pleasing part of the work and i have much dificulties to start working with them:D My forearm and axe dislike it.
Every other stage is a pleasure to me.

Title: Re: My work.
Post by: J05H on July 14, 2014, 06:58:13 am

Set is unavoidable. All bows have some set. The best you can do is keep it as low as you can by careful tillering and not over stressing the bow. You seem to have a good handle on that judging by the bows you've posted. How much set are we talking about? None of your pics show an unbraced profile. Anything under 2 inches or so is doing pretty good. If you want, you can induce some reflex before you start tillering, and some or all of it may pull out leaving you with a straight stave when finished. Such a bow would still have some set, but it would be hidden. As far as how to do it, there are others here better qualified to guide you.

By the way, all of those bows look excellent. You're doing great so far.

Title: Re: My work.
Post by: DarkSoul on July 14, 2014, 07:57:14 am

I think the number one reason for getting set in your particular case, is the fact that your bows are relatively short. I see most of your bows are 60" or 62", with stiff handles, and are drawn to 28" or even 30". You are overstressing the bows quite a bit. A short length is nice when you are hunting in thick bushes, but otherwise the short length is not necessary. I'm confident that your set will decrease a lot as soon as you start building 68" bows.

Title: Re: My work.
Post by: SA Bowyer on July 14, 2014, 09:13:57 am

Ill try to post some pics with the unbraced profiles later this day. Maybe photos will clear some things out

Title: Re: My work.
Post by: mikekeswick on July 14, 2014, 09:35:30 am

Look into trapping the backs of your bows - especially the hickory. I recommend doing a few experiments with it by making up some small slats of the woods you intend to use and do bend tests with trapped sections versus normal cross sections. I think you'll find the results eye opening. The thinking behind it is that most woods are stronger in tension than they are in compression so essentially you are distributing the bending stresses in a way that the gives the belly a bit of a head start.
I've made various test bows out of tension strong woods. Tillered them to a certain drawlength and then just pulled them further till they took around 3 -4 inches of set. Then i've taken them to the bandsaw and cut them in half along the neutral plane.....the back invariably pulls itself more or less straight and the belly takes more set once the back is cut off. The set on the belly piece is often a few inches greater than when the bow was still 'whole'.
Make of that what you will  ;)

Title: Re: My work.
Post by: SA Bowyer on July 14, 2014, 10:23:30 am

Sorry i dont understand due to my lacking of some proffesional terminology, what You mean by trapping the bow back?

Ok i get it allready, you mean to make a trapezoid shape of the limb cross section. Seems legit, Ill try it!:)

Title: Re: My work.
Post by: simson on July 14, 2014, 04:40:23 pm

Great work, man.
And nice pics also!
Welcome here

Title: Re: My work.
Post by: soy on July 14, 2014, 04:48:07 pm

Welcome !!! Looking forward to seeing more of your work ;)

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Post by: Scottski on July 14, 2014, 07:40:35 pm

Nice looking bows, like you work!

Title: Re: My work.
Post by: mikekeswick on July 15, 2014, 06:17:56 am

Yes that's it! Trapezoidal cross section where you may normally have used a rectangular section.