Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: RedBear1313 on June 29, 2014, 06:09:52 pm
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so my nice osage stave got knocked over and now there is an indentation in the back, doesn't cut through like a nick but just an indentation.
could it break there?
could I back it with something to prevent that?
or is there something else that I can do for it as I wasn't really wanting to back this one.
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A dent most likely won't hurt you other than looks!
Pic would be nice for better idea what you have there!
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getting a pic up very soon!
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Osage can take a whole lot of abuse, but there is always a limit...Can you chase down another growthring to play it safe??
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no, can't go down another ring at this point, too close to finished thickness.
also, is there a better way to upload photos other than putting em in photobucket first?
here's 3 pics from different angles. it's 3 inched from fade on bottom limb
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x114/grymmtymm/Bows/1st%20Bow-Osage/P6290033_zps0f56877a.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/grymmtymm/media/Bows/1st%20Bow-Osage/P6290033_zps0f56877a.jpg.html)
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x114/grymmtymm/Bows/1st%20Bow-Osage/P6290034_zps2a7eaa5c.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/grymmtymm/media/Bows/1st%20Bow-Osage/P6290034_zps2a7eaa5c.jpg.html)
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x114/grymmtymm/Bows/1st%20Bow-Osage/P6290036_zpsb92343b5.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/grymmtymm/media/Bows/1st%20Bow-Osage/P6290036_zpsb92343b5.jpg.html)
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THAT's gonna leave a mark!
Ouch! I think that is too deep and concentrated in one small area to be safe to ignore. Let's see what others have to say.
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Could he steam it out? Maybe try that and when it dries coat the depression and a small area around it with super glue not fill it, just coat it.
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thats what I was thinking about trying, steaming it.
back when I worked at the cabinet shop, to get small indents out we would spray a board with water and then iron it.
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Could easily be steamed out but I would leave it be .
On with the prodgect, just my opinion
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and if I were to steam it, just steam it as if I was going to bend it but just don't bend it?
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It doesn't look like the ring has been compromised so I would leave it as well.
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Id leave it be myself.
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no need for a backing?
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I would lightly steam it to allow the cells to expand again and then burnish the area so the remaining dent has a bit more of a smooth transition at the ends.
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I'd just go on with the build if the rings aren't paper thin. That's some great looking Osage by the way. Love that dark stuff :)
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the rings are fairly thin, and yes, it is some great looking osage which is exactly why I didn't want to back it unless it's absolutely neccesary
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wow!
the steaming took out nearly the complete dent! you can barely tell it was there!
I'm guessing I need to wait a while so it can dry out now?
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x114/grymmtymm/Bows/1st%20Bow-Osage/P6290040_zpsd3ddd626.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/grymmtymm/media/Bows/1st%20Bow-Osage/P6290040_zpsd3ddd626.jpg.html)
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Now thats impressive.
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Damn, I'm too late >:(... I was going to say the hot spoon trick :).
Heat a spoon in boilng water, and then rub the back of the spoon over the dent. Keep re-heating the spoon in the boiling water. It works a treat on Yew...
Del
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That worked out real nice, glad I saw this. I'll have to file this little trick away for future use.
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With little dents if you just spit on them they disappear in a couple of minutes if not put a little heat on it and they raise right up !
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That worked out real nice, glad I saw this. I'll have to file this little trick away for future use.
which method did you use?
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You actually need to wait for it to rehydrate, it's already dried out because you steamed it ;) It heats the wood to the point that moisture evaporates, so no new moisture is going to enter and some moisture is going to leave, so to say.
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You actually need to wait for it to rehydrate, it's already dried out because you steamed it ;) It heats the wood to the point that moisture evaporates, so no new moisture is going to enter and some moisture is going to leave, so to say.
I don't believe this to be literally true. Steamed wood is never dry when it comes out of the steaming chamber.
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You actually need to wait for it to rehydrate, it's already dried out because you steamed it ;) It heats the wood to the point that moisture evaporates, so no new moisture is going to enter and some moisture is going to leave, so to say.
I don't believe this to be literally true. Steamed wood is never dry when it comes out of the steaming chamber.
There's definitely moisture on the surface and some in the surface, but I've cut some BL that I steamed just to see if it's true. The wood was bone dry beneath the stuff that had been in direct contact with moisture.
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I am aware of how it works but other variables are at work. Steam a recurve in and it needs more than just cooling the wood to set the curve.
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Well yeah, but that's not from the wood needing to dry out due to being steamed. I've actually never looked into exactly why that is, but I've checked: steamed wood is definitely overly dry after steaming. Takes set pretty bad if you don't let it take in moisture in my experience.
I wonder how everything looks if you boil ???
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Just the same as steam. >:D
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No lol. You need to bust out a moisture meter to prove that the wood is drier. Pressure also drives stuff INTO wood.
You can take a typical bow wood and put one end in water and blow bubbles through a 20 foot length. All those tubules have water driven into them when streaming or boiling.
Wood has to dry out after any water treatment.
You don't make veggies crispy and dry by steaming them , do you?
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The truth is both of you are correct
Steam can either dry wood or increase its moister
but you are getting kinda scientific for building Primitive bows and either way its good to let it set so stop fussing and get to building !
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No lol. You need to bust out a moisture meter to prove that the wood is drier. Pressure also drives stuff INTO wood.
You can take a typical bow wood and put one end in water and blow bubbles through a 20 foot length. All those tubules have water driven into them when streaming or boiling.
Wood has to dry out after any water treatment.
You don't make veggies crispy and dry by steaming them , do you?
Well, I'm not the best cook :o ;D
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That worked out great for you redbear. Are you going to let that one season a little while longer, I know you were saying last week that it was only cut down 6 months ago. would be a shame to get into a hurry and mess up that beautiful piece of osage.
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yes I am. figured I'd just work on those other ones for a while.
should be getting some arrow material some time soon to work on too.