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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: JoJoDapyro on June 25, 2014, 11:11:10 pm

Title: Tree ID
Post by: JoJoDapyro on June 25, 2014, 11:11:10 pm
Pretty sure it is a Mulberry.
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Post by: Tyke on June 25, 2014, 11:17:21 pm
It looks like it might be made of wood
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Post by: J05H on June 25, 2014, 11:20:38 pm
It looks like it might be made of wood
Hmm, I'm not so sure. ;)
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Post by: JoJoDapyro on June 25, 2014, 11:23:44 pm
Thanks Tyke. Not like we haven't stood under this tree for 20 minutes now wondering if it were wood or not.
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Post by: J05H on June 25, 2014, 11:27:22 pm
Could you guys post a pic showing the leaves? I'm sure it will help you get an answer.
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Post by: JoJoDapyro on June 25, 2014, 11:31:36 pm
Here you go.
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Post by: Tyke on June 25, 2014, 11:37:34 pm
Those look just like mullberry leaves i googled it
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Post by: SeanStuart on June 25, 2014, 11:45:06 pm
Mulberry leaves that I have seen usually have a thumb on one side or the other, or both, on at least some of the leaves. Bark looks right though. Where are you guys at?
Title: Re: Tree ID
Post by: J05H on June 25, 2014, 11:54:51 pm
I can't really tell you what it is, but I don't believe its mulberry. The leaves are a little large and they're too uniform. The shape of the leaves should vary and as far as I could determine, Mulberry only grows wild in the eastern half of the country. I believe you guys are in Utah, correct?
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Post by: Joec123able on June 25, 2014, 11:55:02 pm
Yes looks like mulberry
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Post by: okie64 on June 26, 2014, 12:00:45 am
Its mulberry, pretty good bow wood.
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Post by: Pat B on June 26, 2014, 12:03:23 am
If you can cut a branch mulberry will have a darker heartwood and it might have a white latex like sap. Do you see any sign of fruit?
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Post by: Tyke on June 26, 2014, 12:35:35 am
Yeah pat it has fruit thats why we thought maybe mullberry but the berrys were small around3/8"
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Post by: DarkSoul on June 26, 2014, 07:19:14 am
Basal shoots of trees, such as the one your pictured with the leaves, are often somewhat poor tools for identification. The leaves in these shoots can deviate from the actual leaf shape, size or color of the main branches in a tree. This depends on the species, though, but for identification purposes you always need to use the leaves of the higher branches and not the basal shoots.
Those fruits are also very easy and important tools for identification. Just saying that the are 3/8" big is pretty useless info. They could be unripe and grow up to 10"... Take a picture of the fruits, if possible. They may be laying on the ground if the tree is too big to reach up. Mulberries are very easy to identify by the fruits.
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Post by: Lee Lobbestael on June 26, 2014, 07:22:24 am
Its mullberry
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Post by: JoJoDapyro on June 26, 2014, 08:59:32 am
We are in Utah. It is strange to see this tree here. It is in a wetland area. The trees around it are Cotton wood, Russian olive and Willow. It is right in the middle of a stand of Russian olive. The fruit is the same as any Mulberry I have ever seen, but I am not a Arborist. The issue with photos of the leaves on the tree its self is that there aren't any until about 10 or 12 feet up. Thanks again guys.
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Post by: wapiti1997 on June 26, 2014, 07:39:51 pm
It looks like a white mulberry to me.
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Post by: mwosborn on June 27, 2014, 12:23:25 am
Looks like a pretty good sized tree!  Most of the mulberry trees that grow in my area are not nearly that big or straight!  I like mulberry - will make a nice bow.  BTW - mulberry trees are usually male or female (dioecious) not both.  Thus the females will produce fruits and the males will not.  It may not produce fruit and still be a mulberry.
Title: Re: Tree ID
Post by: JoJoDapyro on June 27, 2014, 08:53:53 am
It does have fruit. It is still just light green. This tree will not be cut, even if it were on private property, it is just in too good of shape, and they are not very common around here. Off the top of my head I know of one other Mulberry in my area, and I only know of that because my friend planted it. I am going to talk to the current owners of the home, as the tree is about 8 inches away from their foundation, and I want it ::) . I'll offer them a trade, the wood, for removal of the tree.

About the straightness of the tree. It is in the same grove from where we found the Russian olive, both very straight. The only reason we took the Russian olive is because it was already down. It came from an area that has a few ponds, as well as tons of cane.