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Title: Alpha-gal
Post by: nclonghunter on June 15, 2014, 08:58:06 am
Just recently learned of this. My understanding is around 2007 a doctor discovered and labeled an allergy that you can get from a TICK bite as Alphagal. Unlike Rocky Mtn. fever and Lyme's disease this is an allergy to meat or mammal meat. Several hours after eating mammal meat you will break out in hives and swell. A few have died from anaphylactic shock as a result. Takes several hours after eating meat to start showing symptoms. The guy I met that had it carried an epipen, which he says stops the reaction.
Crazy stuff right there and it is from a tick bite... :o
Title: Re: Alpha-gal
Post by: Zuma on June 15, 2014, 09:50:22 am
Great info. I need to learn more. Sounds like the shingles you are supposed to get from chicken pox.
Zuma
Title: Re: Alpha-gal
Post by: JW_Halverson on June 15, 2014, 03:30:26 pm
This is much more serious than shingles, this can be potentially life threatening from something as simple as a cook adding a bit of beef stock to a pot of vegetable soup.  Yikes!

I recommend everyone read up on this one.  Never liked ticks and now I really got a problem with the little suckers!
Title: Re: Alpha-gal
Post by: stickbender on June 15, 2014, 03:48:35 pm

     Man, that  Alpha Gal, sounds like a bitch! ::) :P

                                              Wayne
Title: Re: Alpha-gal
Post by: Zuma on June 15, 2014, 10:47:08 pm
When we were out to a swanky hotel bar to watch the Belmont,
I met a nice lady.
Friend of a friend. Anyway she, for some reason said to me,
 she is Alfa and likes Alfa males.
I said you will probabaly get bit by a tick before something like that happens.
really, Zuma
Title: Re: Alpha-gal
Post by: TRACY on June 15, 2014, 11:46:43 pm
Interesting. Don't know about anyone else, but tick bites have been itching months after the initial bite. Never had this problem until last year. Seem to be more potent these days

Tracy
Title: Re: Alpha-gal
Post by: SA on November 12, 2014, 09:01:04 pm
I know this post is a little old , but I haven't been on here in a while . Just did a little search and this popped up. I was diagnosed a few months ago with this allergy it is very real and can change your life! I've have anywhere from stomach cramps too anaphylaxis and even shock, it just about killed me. It comes from the bite of the lone star tick. I am outdoors everyday just like a lot of folks on here ,it's mostly in se states (apparently oklahoma too) . It's supposed to go away in a few years(no beef , pork or dairy for a while) so it's just fins and feathers for me . Maybe I can shoot me a turkey this year :)
Title: Re: Alpha-gal
Post by: JW_Halverson on November 12, 2014, 10:43:20 pm
Was wondering where ya been, Sean.  Sorry to hear about your bad luck. 
Title: Re: Alpha-gal
Post by: SA on November 12, 2014, 11:26:03 pm
Thanks jw , how have you been? Honestly I've lost twenty pounds and feel pretty good , just have to watch what I eat pretty close . How's that bow holding up ?
Title: Re: Alpha-gal
Post by: Buckeye Guy on November 13, 2014, 07:51:13 am
Hope them suckers stay away from me !
Take care of yourself SA
Title: Re: Alpha-gal
Post by: koan on November 13, 2014, 10:39:00 am
Hmmm..... You guys are describing almost verbatem what Darla's been goin thru the last several months... They did test for tick born disease on her and they came back clean but its worth checkin into again..... Brian
Title: Re: Alpha-gal
Post by: Marks on November 13, 2014, 10:45:52 am
Koan - Not sure if this is classified as a disease. It is an allergy brought on by the bite. It might be worth mentioning it specifically.

Tracy - I do the same thing. they used to not bother me but now the bite area turns red and itches for sometimes a few months. If I ever miss a tick when I get home I will find it in a day or 2 when I start itching. I used to not do that either.
Title: Re: Alpha-gal
Post by: paoliguy on November 13, 2014, 12:36:33 pm
Koan, I know a guy who has the allergy and his doctor did not detect it until his third visit. The only reason they found it that time is that he specifically asked the doctor to look for it. I guess it's not an easy thing to diagnose.
Title: Re: Alpha-gal
Post by: koan on November 13, 2014, 01:04:44 pm
Im callin the Dr. after work today. Thanks guys! Its definately worth lookin into... Brian
Title: Re: Alpha-gal
Post by: SA on November 13, 2014, 02:16:53 pm
Ya koan it took me several months and dr visits before I stumbled across an article about it and put two and two together. Let us know what you find out there's more to it than just stopping red meat , pork and dairy , pills with gelatin, lactose are bad even cooking on the same grill can cross contaminate chicken or whatever. I'm amazed at how many things have meat byproducts in them.
Title: Re: Alpha-gal
Post by: koan on November 13, 2014, 02:26:26 pm
We have already been goin red meat and gluten free for a couple months and she has been feelin alot better but not close to 100% yet. Your right..you really gotta read labels anymore so you dont get a surprize.... Brian
Title: Re: Alpha-gal
Post by: Marks on November 13, 2014, 03:32:40 pm
Have you got a fishing boat? If not I'd get one and learn to crappie fish. Blue gill and shell cracker will be on bed in the spring. Load the boat. I've got 3 gallons at home.
Title: Re: Alpha-gal
Post by: koan on November 13, 2014, 03:37:53 pm
We eat alot of fish. Wanna the reasons im sad im movin is i stocked the lake with crappie 3 yrs ago and they finally took off this year. Dang near every fish we pull out is 13-15"  :o.... Gonna miss those, lol... Brian
Title: Re: Alpha-gal
Post by: Marks on November 13, 2014, 06:04:56 pm
fish as many out as you can >:D
Title: Re: Alpha-gal
Post by: mullet on November 13, 2014, 06:47:32 pm
Cast net >:D. In the last few years tick bites have made me itch also for two or three months after I was bit. Three years ago at Pappy's hunting turkeys I got tore up by seed ticks. It was the first time I've had them blister up and ooze gook for a week. I still have scars from them.
Title: Re: Alpha-gal
Post by: Zuma on November 13, 2014, 08:46:28 pm
Eddie, Is a seed tick the same as a chigger?
I am pretty sure I have this stupid arse virus.
Kind of a rant but hope you all can use the info.
Three or four years ago I went hunting with new camo pants and
got caught in the rain.
I broke out that night. It was 3 am so I went to the Emergency room.
The doc looked at me for a minute and said you might have shingles
if you had chicken pox as a kid. I thought it might have been some
 chemicals from China in the bargain store camos. lol
The nurse gave me a shot that knocked me out for three hours.
When I was stable and no blisters I finally drove home.
They sent me a bill for $1,285 bucks.
I have had several attacks since. Mostly several hours after eating
a burger when I am on the road. Venison doesn't seem to effect me
but after eating a generous portion of buffalo I had an outbreak.
When it happens, I get a horrible heartburn feeling then the itching starts.
Mostly the scalp, groin and back of my hands. If I don't take some Benadrill
the blisters will cover most of my body.
I now take the Benadrill as soon as I get the heartburn
and crash out if possible. When I awake it's like nothing ever happened.
I for the love of life cannot imagine how or why a tick could develop or
carry such a virus. Makes no sense.
Zuma
Title: Re: Alpha-gal
Post by: SA on November 13, 2014, 11:40:05 pm
Zuma it not a virus it's a allergy or sensitivity to a sugar ( alpha galactase ) that is in mammal meat. Do a google search of alpha gal allergy. You can get a blood test to tell you if it is the problem talk to your dr.
 Seed ticks are the larva of ticks, chiggers are not seed ticks.
Title: Re: Alpha-gal
Post by: Marks on November 14, 2014, 10:04:48 am
When it happens, I get a horrible heartburn feeling then the itching starts.
Mostly the scalp, groin and back of my hands. If I don't take some Benadrill
the blisters will cover most of my body.
Zuma

You may have herpes :o >:D
Title: Re: Alpha-gal
Post by: nclonghunter on November 14, 2014, 04:08:19 pm
This allergy has only been known for a few years. Most doctors have never heard of it. You will most likely be more informed than they are if you read what's on the Internet. I bet a lot of folks have it and do not know what they have...
Title: Re: Alpha-gal
Post by: Zuma on November 15, 2014, 02:55:15 pm
Zuma it not a virus it's a allergy or sensitivity to a sugar ( alpha galactase ) that is in mammal meat. Do a google search of alpha gal allergy. You can get a blood test to tell you if it is the problem talk to your dr.
 Seed ticks are the larva of ticks, chiggers are not seed ticks.
Thanks for straightening me out sa.

Marks, I'm glad I don't have to pay you $1,285 for your diagnosis.
lol Zuma