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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: leehongyi on June 10, 2014, 02:42:41 am

Title: china's oldest lacquer bow
Post by: leehongyi on June 10, 2014, 02:42:41 am
Kuahuqiao Museum is a Kuahuqiao culture-themed museum which comprehensively displays the archeological findings in Kuahuqiao Historical Site and research achievements. The museum mainly consists of Exhibition Hall and Historical Relics Hall. Modern displaying methods and high-end displaying equipment are applied to present the 8000-year-old Kuahuqiao Culture.
I noticed that there is a lacquer bow in the equipments shown as below, as old as Holmegaard. is 8000 years the earliest existing bow in the world?
Title: Re: china's oldest lacquer bow
Post by: Joec123able on June 10, 2014, 04:04:53 am
If you're asking if an 8000 year old bow is the oldest found bow then the answer is no ! Just do some research
Title: Re: china's oldest lacquer bow
Post by: leehongyi on June 10, 2014, 05:39:13 am
tell me more pls. The google is dead here this days.
Title: Re: china's oldest lacquer bow
Post by: bubby on June 10, 2014, 12:49:52 pm
Actually the oldest bow I found online was a yew bow between5200-5400 bce, so that's about 7414
Title: Re: china's oldest lacquer bow
Post by: Crogacht on June 10, 2014, 05:42:45 pm
Most places I looked claim 9000 years+ for Holmegaard, but not sure on the "official" age. There have been arrowheads found that are 60,000 years old though, so who knows how long bows have been in use. Probably much much longer than that. You don't go from nothing straight to holmegaard overnight :P
Title: Re: china's oldest lacquer bow
Post by: randman on June 10, 2014, 08:45:54 pm
Amazing color on that. Very Impressive that colored lacquer preserves so well. One thing I do know is the Holmegaard artifact has no finish or color or anything from that era on it......Cool enough finish to reproduce as a great "camo" effect....
Title: Re: china's oldest lacquer bow
Post by: swamp monkey on June 10, 2014, 09:46:27 pm
Old or not, that is a gorgeous work of art.  That would be a stellar item to recreate! 
Title: Re: china's oldest lacquer bow
Post by: Don Case on June 10, 2014, 10:44:40 pm
I didn't think lacquer would be flexible enough for a bow. Or is this put on a little thinner than ornamental boxes? Beautiful thing. Great fall camo. You could lose that so easy in a pile of leaves.
Title: Re: china's oldest lacquer bow
Post by: zenart on June 10, 2014, 11:20:01 pm
Beautiful! Wish you had close-ups. Do you have stats, length etc.?
Title: Re: china's oldest lacquer bow
Post by: Wiley on June 11, 2014, 01:20:49 am
Such enduring color after 8000 years is really amazing. Not the oldest bow in the world but its up there among the oldest known bows. It looks like it had side nocks. I would love to see some high definition photos of it where I could see more detail.

Would be interesting if you could contact the museum staff and get some detailed measurements and high quality photos and attempt to replicate it.

Any idea what species of wood its made from?
Title: Re: china's oldest lacquer bow
Post by: leehongyi on June 11, 2014, 01:58:30 am
Beautiful! Wish you had close-ups. Do you have stats, length etc.?

Not yet. the researchers always publish their datas on some databases that we cannot access.
Title: Re: china's oldest lacquer bow
Post by: leehongyi on June 11, 2014, 02:00:44 am
Such enduring color after 8000 years is really amazing. Not the oldest bow in the world but its up there among the oldest known bows. It looks like it had side nocks. I would love to see some high definition photos of it where I could see more detail.

Would be interesting if you could contact the museum staff and get some detailed measurements and high quality photos and attempt to replicate it.

Any idea what species of wood its made from?

thank you for your advice. i will try later.
Title: Re: china's oldest lacquer bow
Post by: leehongyi on June 11, 2014, 02:05:33 am
Beautiful! Wish you had close-ups. Do you have stats, length etc.?

Not yet. the researchers always publish their datas on some databases that we cannot access.

the remaining length is 121cm, the widest part 3.3cm and thickest 2.2. the material is mulberry heartwood.
Title: Re: china's oldest lacquer bow
Post by: leehongyi on June 11, 2014, 02:09:29 am
Such enduring color after 8000 years is really amazing. Not the oldest bow in the world but its up there among the oldest known bows. It looks like it had side nocks. I would love to see some high definition photos of it where I could see more detail.

Would be interesting if you could contact the museum staff and get some detailed measurements and high quality photos and attempt to replicate it.

Any idea what species of wood its made from?

i am afraid that's a stub-end rather than a nock.