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Title: I've made a mistake
Post by: stone_huntsman on May 13, 2014, 03:46:02 pm
I was working on a new osage bow for myself last night and it was going great until I made one mistake that was very disappointing. I'll go through my thought process before the mistake.

 I got it shaped out looking good, I chased a ring and man it looked beautiful. I was thinking "This is my bow I'm making it for me just the way I want it it's going to be awesome." There was one place where there was a little big damage, but no big deal, it's on the back near the tip where it's not going to bend anyways so I filled it with glue and some real fine saw dust easy fix. Then there was another small bug hole on the belly and I have seen where people have used turquoise to fill in small knot holes so I decided that's what I will do there. It should look really pretty. Then once everything was ready I decided shape the handle a little and cut in the arrow rest.

Now I look the bow over and decide which is going to be my top and bottom limbs and pick where I should make the arrow rest and I get to cutting. I get it cut out shape it up real nice, it looks good. My bow is going to be awesome. My best bow by far I can already tell. Then I look, oh no, what have I done.  I cut the arrow rest to where it's for a left handee and I'm right handed. I just sat it in the corner after a few words of regret and pain over how dumb and carries away I got.   

I thought I would share with you guys and see if you ever done something like this and if I could still shoot it accurately. It's kinda of funny now I figure I can shoot it of my thumb side like some of the Asian composite shooters. But it did make me sad till I went to bed.
Title: Re: I've made a mistake
Post by: Bogaman on May 13, 2014, 03:59:29 pm
I'm a southpaw. Just ship it to me;^)
Title: Re: I've made a mistake
Post by: Marks on May 13, 2014, 04:06:30 pm
Would it be possible to turn it upside down and cut another arrow rest on the other end of the handle?
Title: Re: I've made a mistake
Post by: wizardgoat on May 13, 2014, 04:07:18 pm
to me its bad mojo to carve the handle (other than making it flat for your tiller), to carve nice tips, or name it, or even call it a bow yet haha.
for me, i dont like to pick the top or bottom limb until i see how it tracks at first brace.  you dont want to put all that work in to
have the stave explode at some point during tillering.
you should upload some pics of the handle section so we can see what your dealing with
Title: Re: I've made a mistake
Post by: scp on May 13, 2014, 04:10:37 pm
That's one of the reason I don't cut an arrow rest anymore and just make it shootable from both sides. If I really want, I can always glue on a small piece of wood, leather, or whatever on whichever side I want for the rest.

You can glue on the cut off piece or a small piece of wood shaped to fit and wrap the handle with leather or something. Good luck.
Title: Re: I've made a mistake
Post by: PatM on May 13, 2014, 04:29:35 pm
Consider your lesson learned. A selfbow should never have a shelf.  >:D
Title: Re: I've made a mistake
Post by: Don Case on May 13, 2014, 04:36:01 pm
Sounds like something I would have done. From now on whenever you are going to cut a notch- go have a cup of coffee. ;D
Title: Re: I've made a mistake
Post by: Slackbunny on May 13, 2014, 04:44:10 pm
That's one of the reason I don't cut an arrow rest anymore and just make it shootable from both sides. If I really want, I can always glue on a small piece of wood, leather, or whatever on whichever side I want for the rest.

You can glue on the cut off piece or a small piece of wood shaped to fit and wrap the handle with leather or something. Good luck.

That is what I would do. Glue it back up, maybe put a dowel through it. Then, when you finish the bow, you can just put a handle wrap on that will cover up all the ugliness.
Title: Re: I've made a mistake
Post by: paoliguy on May 13, 2014, 05:55:52 pm
I did that same thing recently. Turns out a friend at church was left handed and interested in bows. Now I have one more bow's worth of experience AND someone to shoot with!
Title: Re: I've made a mistake
Post by: stone_huntsman on May 13, 2014, 06:09:40 pm
It's all part of my learning experience and it's good to learn from my mistakes.  Every time I make a bow I know from past mistakes don't do what you did wrong last time. So from now on I will check and make sure I'm not doing something stupid.
Title: Re: I've made a mistake
Post by: Onebowonder on May 13, 2014, 07:17:52 pm
It's a sign.  Some left handed friend somewhere must need a new bow...

OneBow
Title: Re: I've made a mistake
Post by: Slackbunny on May 13, 2014, 10:13:03 pm
It's a sign.  Some left handed friend somewhere must need a new bow...

OneBow


Just tell them to stop being so contrary and use the correct hand  >:D >:D
Title: Re: I've made a mistake
Post by: PatM on May 13, 2014, 10:23:03 pm
 Or you could shoot with a thumb ring.
Title: Re: I've made a mistake
Post by: tallpine on May 13, 2014, 10:46:33 pm
Don't sweat it, its all part of the learning curve. On one of my first bows I cut the string nocks in backwards. These kinds of mistakes you only make once. I'm sure you can salvage it, that's another aspect of bow building, covering up your screw-ups.
Title: Re: I've made a mistake
Post by: Crogacht on May 13, 2014, 10:48:57 pm
If it were me (and it might be yet :D) I would continue with it, make an amazing bow and give it to a left handed friend :)
Title: Re: I've made a mistake
Post by: David_Daugherty on May 13, 2014, 11:19:15 pm
Finish her up, I'm a lefty and will put her to good use  ;)
Title: Re: I've made a mistake
Post by: mikekeswick on May 14, 2014, 04:10:24 am
You can fill out the section you cut out with leather,patience and superglue. It will set rock hard and you can then shape your handle properly and carry on.
Title: Re: I've made a mistake
Post by: stone_huntsman on May 15, 2014, 09:40:02 pm
I'll probably finish it up, shoot it a few times, then see if anyone wants it.
Title: Re: I've made a mistake
Post by: lesken2011 on May 15, 2014, 09:54:24 pm
Sounds like a good time to work out a trade with one of us lefties!! :P
Title: Re: I've made a mistake
Post by: stone_huntsman on May 16, 2014, 12:32:15 am
Yeah a trade would be cool.  When I finish it I'll post some pictures. See if anyone might want to make a trade.
Title: Re: I've made a mistake
Post by: toomanyknots on May 16, 2014, 01:02:20 am
Why not keep it and shoot it? I shoot on the right side of the bow, but I still think it is fun to shoot on the left side too. It doesn't make a huge difference for me anymore, and it is fun to mix it up once and while, :).
Title: Re: I've made a mistake
Post by: George Tsoukalas on May 16, 2014, 09:36:06 am
Can you sand it out and use a leather wedge or just rest the arrow on your hand?
I stopped using rests of any sort and restt he arrow on my hand at the top of the the handle's leather covering.
Jawge
Title: Re: I've made a mistake
Post by: Marc St Louis on May 16, 2014, 09:48:15 am
I never do any work to the handle, other than rounding the edges, till I have finished tillering the bow.  To me it's just bad mojo
Title: Re: I've made a mistake
Post by: PatM on May 16, 2014, 11:50:46 am
I'm the opposite. I like to practically shape the handle first of all. I like to feel the bow develop from that point out.
Title: Re: I've made a mistake
Post by: stone_huntsman on May 16, 2014, 12:16:55 pm
I usually don't work on the handle really at all till the bow is able to brace height. I figure, heck, what would it hurt to shape it out and start cutting the rest. I could still shoot it off hand if I wanted.  It would be no problem. I see how that it could be bad mojo to cut it early.
Title: Re: I've made a mistake
Post by: Parnell on May 16, 2014, 12:27:15 pm
Do you have a picture?  Are we talking just arrow rest here, or did you cut out a shelf into the handle?    If so, hey, live and learn but if it could just be made into a bow without a rest at all...build it up later!

This is one I'm working on using inexpensive cork pads from the hobby store...
It's easy to shape and glue then just put your wrap over it.

Title: Re: I've made a mistake
Post by: stone_huntsman on May 16, 2014, 12:36:51 pm
It is a shelf, I don't have a picture of it.  I have been at work and haven't been to the shop where I make the bows in a few days. Maybe this weekend I may have time to work on it some more and I will get some pictures.
Title: Re: I've made a mistake
Post by: Parnell on May 16, 2014, 12:38:37 pm
Mmmm, yeah.  Those are good to do last.  Oh well.
Title: Re: I've made a mistake
Post by: PatM on May 16, 2014, 12:51:39 pm
You could also just cut the whole side off the handle and then build up that side with a lamination or two and then reshape.
 I think it is Eric Krewson who has repaired some bows that have a handle that looks like a jigsaw puzzle there are so many pieced together fragments.