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Title: Classic built bows
Post by: nclonghunter on May 08, 2014, 01:25:15 pm
Evryone that built a bow at the Classic, post a picture of it here. I saw a lot of great bows being made.
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: osage outlaw on May 08, 2014, 01:42:02 pm
Mine isn't completely finished yet but here is a sneak peek

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r55/clintanders/Bows%202014/SDC16455.jpg)

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r55/clintanders/Bows%202014/SDC16453.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: Parnell on May 08, 2014, 01:53:27 pm
Dang Clint, that is some peculiar stuff.  Can't wait to see it!
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: Blaflair2 on May 08, 2014, 02:16:12 pm
That's sick Clint!! When u cut the tree didnit have any signs of the figuring?
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: Gsulfridge on May 08, 2014, 03:19:30 pm
(http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y406/Gsulfridge/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-04/20140423_053609_zpsuwaujf9y.jpg) (http://s1273.photobucket.com/user/Gsulfridge/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-04/20140423_053609_zpsuwaujf9y.jpg.html)
I finished this one up at the Classic.  My first short, bendy.
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: H Rhodes on May 08, 2014, 07:52:04 pm
Clint that curly osage is really something!  I had never seen any like that.  Can't wait to see it finished up.  I am still working on a couple that I started at the classic that are from old gnarly fencepost staves that I would have given away if Danzn Bar hadn't convinced me that they would make a bow.  I think he was right on both of them.  ;)
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: Danzn Bar on May 08, 2014, 10:04:16 pm
Glad to inspire you Howard, But to tell the truth, it didn't take much.  :) ;) 
You've got it, just work it out and show us your stuff.  I saw you at work.  :o ;)
DBar
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: DLH on May 09, 2014, 12:01:54 am
You were pretty mean with that knife Howard made short work on what I seen you working on.
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: H Rhodes on May 14, 2014, 08:04:42 pm
I shot that little walking stick bow some earlier today.  It was such a crooked stick - I had to heat it and bend it several times before it was through.  Turned out pretty cool.  I will post it as soon as the weather clears up.  Here is a pic of the way it looked last week after it's first heat treating. It has come a long way in a week.  :)
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: osage outlaw on May 14, 2014, 10:01:55 pm
That's sick Clint!! When u cut the tree didnit have any signs of the figuring?

I didn't notice it when I cut it.  In fact, I didn't notice it until this spring when I was going through my staves.
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: osage outlaw on May 14, 2014, 10:02:27 pm
That bow is looking good Howard.  Looks like a challenging piece of wood.
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: nclonghunter on May 14, 2014, 10:20:24 pm
I have wanted a bow that had tight grained curly maple through its length. That Osage is an awesome piece of wood. Best of both worlds...can't wait to see it finished.

Do you know how it was cut to get that grain?
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: H Rhodes on May 14, 2014, 10:22:24 pm
I am anxious to see that curly wood bow all slicked up Clint.  That grain is killer. 
I have had fun rasslin a bow out of it.  Blackhawk told me it looked like a walking stick.  It had bad prop twist, holes, snakes, deflex, reflex, cracks, and a whoopty do - like a ride at the fair! :laugh:
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: osage outlaw on May 15, 2014, 12:14:10 am
I have wanted a bow that had tight grained curly maple through its length. That Osage is an awesome piece of wood. Best of both worlds...can't wait to see it finished.

Do you know how it was cut to get that grain?


I cut it and split it into staves just like every other tree I have cut.  It was over a year before I realized it had the curly grain.  I glued tip overlays on it tonight.  I hope to get the tips thinned and the handle finished tomorrow. 
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: zenart on May 15, 2014, 12:48:03 am
Clint, have you noticed this 'curly' responding differently in any way? tension, compression, elasticity, etc
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: Crogacht on May 15, 2014, 12:57:30 am
I found this regarding curly figuring.

"Curl is compression grain perpendicularly crossing the face of a board producing alternate stripes of hard and soft board fiber. "

Not sure if it's true or not, but certainly interesting.

Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: osage outlaw on May 15, 2014, 08:34:21 am
Clint, have you noticed this 'curly' responding differently in any way? tension, compression, elasticity, etc

The curly wood is heavy and rubbery feeling.  It is not very good selfbow wood in my opinion after working on this bow. 
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: DGF on May 15, 2014, 08:56:08 am
Were you able to get to some rings with a good early/late ratio, or do you think the figured wood is sub par because of the curly aspect?

-Dan
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: osage outlaw on May 15, 2014, 09:23:46 am
I got down to decent rings.  Its just the curly wood I think.  It kind of feels as if the bow has been under water for a few days.  It has the dimensions of a 70 lb bow but is only pulling 40-45 lbs. 
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: blackhawk on May 15, 2014, 09:37:14 am
I can definitely back Clint up on this one as I saw it in person...he had it floor tillered when i first saw it(but I didn't know where he was at with it at first),and I looked it over n thought this things still gotta be pretty stiff and over 80-90 pounds by the looks of his widths and thicknesses....but then I tested its bend on the floor to check it.... boy was I surprised...it bent over like a wet noodle with not much bend resistance like you normally feel with osage,and he was around 50-60 pounds already...it basically felt like a wet low dense whitewood feel to its bending....we thought maybe the mc was a lil high,and he backed off after a few shots and hot boxed it...but it made no difference...curly wood is "soft" in general ....I def learned something from it
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: MWirwicki on May 15, 2014, 09:47:57 am
I made a bow out of the sunken osage wood that GSulfridge passed on to a few of us.  JW (damn him) came up with "Yellow Submarine".  Wished I would of thought of that.  Anyhow, I chased a ring, cut out the rough and heated it one night.  Worked again on it Saturday around midnight.  It ended up 52# and I shot it very well the next morning for the Selfbow Challenge.  Couldn't beat Cody though.  He was a machine.  I sanded and dipped it last night.  I'll post pics this evening. 
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: osage outlaw on May 15, 2014, 10:17:47 am
Matt, are you bringing that bow to Marshall?  I would like to check it out.  That thing was on a lake shore just a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: stickbender on May 15, 2014, 01:55:29 pm
That's sick Clint!! When u cut the tree didnit have any signs of the figuring?

     Oh yeah, that would make for some nice stock wood, and or knife handles, tomahawk handles, etc.


                                                                                Wayne
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: Buckeye Guy on May 15, 2014, 04:33:25 pm
I got down to decent rings.  Its just the curly wood I think.  It kind of feels as if the bow has been under water for a few days.  It has the dimensions of a 70 lb bow but is only pulling 40-45 lbs. 

I will take it off your hands , no problem !
Was there enough wood you could of done it side ways ? been wanting to try curly that way .
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: H Rhodes on May 15, 2014, 08:33:37 pm
Finished this one up and want to post it before Clint puts up what I am sure is going to be a beautiful bow even if the wood looks better than it performs.  This little bow is just the opposite and shoots a heck of a lot better than it looks.  51 1/2" nock to nock and came in at 43lbs at 25".  The tiller may look a little wonky, but I was starting out with over 90 degrees of propeller twist.  I had my doubts about whether it would make a hunting weight bow or not.  Danzn Bar convinced me to give it a try and I chased a ring and roughed it out Saturday afternoon at the Classic.  Had to heat correct, bend and twist, and basically torture a bow out of this old stave, which came from an old fencepost that I found hiding in a mound of dirt that I was flattening out with the box blade.  Ended up sort of a five curve design that bends very slightly in the handle. 
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: Danzn Bar on May 15, 2014, 08:50:32 pm
 :o  That doesn't even look like the same piece of wood I saw at the classic!!!  That thing had more curves than Farah Faucet (SP?)   ::) :laugh:
Great job, Howard.....bet it shoots good.
DBar
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: H Rhodes on May 15, 2014, 08:55:59 pm
Thanks Bill.  It's all your fault.  I would have let someone else wrestle with that thing if I hadn't listened to you! ;D  I ran the heat gun 3 different sessions on that little bow.  In fact, I chased a ring and roughed it out in an hour or two.  I tillered it out in less than an hour.  The other WEEK was spent trying to get it strung and getting the string to track through the handle.
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: Danzn Bar on May 15, 2014, 09:02:10 pm
That was a splinter of a stave, you did a real good job getting 45# out of that stick.   "Seasoned" wood is a bit better than dry wood, huh?
DBar
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: half eye on May 15, 2014, 09:10:39 pm
Damn Howard, ya got a hook into them way curvy shorties....WOW :o :o :o :o 8)
rich
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: nclonghunter on May 15, 2014, 09:15:06 pm
Osage Outlaw, curly maple wood used for muzzleloaders is suppose to be quarter sawn in some manner that causes the curl to show. The reason I mention this is I am interested and somewhat surprised the bow is weak in poundage. Have any other bows been made from that same tree? Wondering if they acted like regular Osage?

Just curious, anxious to see the finished bow. .. ;D
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: Badly Bent on May 15, 2014, 09:17:34 pm
And to think I just shook my head and walked away when you showed me that sliver of a stave.  I sure didn't think there was a bow in that one Howard. You now have me thinking that your bow building talent rivals your guitar pickin' and singin' talent. :)  Nice job, that one was a nasty piece of wood before you worked it up.
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: H Rhodes on May 15, 2014, 09:23:14 pm
Thanks half eye, Bill and Greg.  Greg, like they say, it don't take much osage to make a bow.   :)
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: Badly Bent on May 15, 2014, 09:28:12 pm
Depends on whose working it, takes more and better stuff than that for me to get a bow that good Howard.  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: H Rhodes on May 15, 2014, 09:42:29 pm
I don't know about that Greg.  I was lucky enough to see your bows up close and they are amazing.  The pics don't do them justice.  Have you made any headway with that birch bow that you were working on?  I know you have had to work a lot lately.  Funny how work gets in the way of bow making, huh? 
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: osage outlaw on May 15, 2014, 10:08:15 pm
Dang Howard.  You made a fine looking bow out of that fence post.  Great job on it.  I bet you anything that your little splinter bow will out perform my curly dog  :-[
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: H Rhodes on May 15, 2014, 10:58:18 pm
Thanks Clint.  I hate that the curly wood isn't all that.  It sure is some pretty stuff.  Reckon a deep heat treating would help it along?
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: Gsulfridge on May 15, 2014, 11:51:20 pm
Quote from: MWirwicki link=topic=46463.msg635243#msg635243 dat. 1400155125
I made a bow out ofitthe sunken osage wood that GSulfridge passed on to a. ew of us.  JW (damn him) came up with "Yellow Submarine".  Wished I would of tho. ht of that.  Anyhow, I chased a ring, cut out the rough and heated it one night.  Worked again on it Saturday around midnight.  It ended up 52# and I shot it very well the next morning for the Selfbow Challenge.  Couldn't beat Cody though.  He was a machine.  I sanded and dipped it last night.  I'll post pics this evening.
Glad it worked for ya Matt. I was hoping that it was decent wood.  I was carrying a stave out of it at the Classic when JW asked me if was out of the Yellow Submarine. I thought to myself then that Yellow Submarine was pretty catchy phrasing for it. JW is a pretty witty guy.
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: robtattoo on May 16, 2014, 05:26:42 pm
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/robtattoo/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140512_161259_029_zpsp6pad92v.jpg) (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/robtattoo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140512_161259_029_zpsp6pad92v.jpg.html)
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/robtattoo/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140512_161111_667_zpstzejpg5n.jpg) (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/robtattoo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140512_161111_667_zpstzejpg5n.jpg.html)
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/robtattoo/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140512_162349_zpslczc0kqn.jpg) (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/robtattoo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140512_162349_zpslczc0kqn.jpg.html)

I didn't solely work on this at the Classic, but I did get it finished up....



Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: Gsulfridge on May 16, 2014, 09:19:02 pm
Nice bow!
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: burchett.donald on May 17, 2014, 12:52:35 am
  Howard, I'm liking that fence post 8)  Nice job twisting, torturing and taming that character piece bud...
                                                                                                      Don
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: burchett.donald on May 17, 2014, 12:59:49 am
 Nice one Rob, Good job on the bend 8)  Thought we had a hinge until I went back and looked at the braced pic...Nice work on that lower limb ;)
                                                                   Don
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: osage outlaw on May 17, 2014, 01:01:14 am
Nice bow Robtattoo.  You might want some better footwear when you take that thing bear hunting  ;D
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: H Rhodes on May 18, 2014, 06:27:00 pm
Nice bow Rob!  I bet that one shoots sweet. 
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: MWirwicki on May 19, 2014, 09:26:39 am
Here's a couple.  One for me, one for Miss Heather.  Her's was from a small diameter tree that I cut back in 1996.  Got her to 40# @ 26.  Mine started out as a gift stave from GSulfridge.  The bow practically made itself.  It shot very well for me on the course.  This may just be my new "go-to" bow for the 3-D ranges.  Thanks Greg! 

Sorry, no full draw pics.  The little woman was working all day cleaning out the chicken coops.  She didn't feel pretty enough for a pic.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: Gsulfridge on May 19, 2014, 12:00:01 pm
Looks like the perfect pair Matt!! Good job.
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: H Rhodes on May 19, 2014, 08:00:40 pm
Those are sweet looking bows.
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: missilemaster on May 20, 2014, 12:21:28 am
Nice Matt :)
Title: Re: Classic built bows
Post by: Pappy on May 20, 2014, 07:23:20 am
Very nice work,looks like yall have been busy. :)
 Pappy