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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Josh B on April 07, 2014, 01:23:58 pm

Title: buckthorn go bang
Post by: Josh B on April 07, 2014, 01:23:58 pm
I was working on a bow for the classic should I be so lucky as to make it there.  Well...it didn't go well. Never having worked buckthorn before, I'm guessing the gray colored sapwood was due to mildew rot and not the natural color?  It broke at about 15".  So now...if I do get to attend, I'll have to use one of my old bows instead of a new unique stick.  I'm kinda bummed about that.  Josh
Title: Re: buckthorn go bang
Post by: JW_Halverson on April 07, 2014, 01:27:35 pm
Aw dang
Bow go bang
If you ain't breakin'
You ain't makin'.
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on April 07, 2014, 01:29:38 pm
Yup, looks like sick wood trucker. It should have a pink/dark brown back until its sanded clean. Ive never had a buckthorn go bang, 5 for 5. It was all healthy, live-cut stuff from Cody.
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Post by: bubby on April 07, 2014, 01:55:36 pm
to bad josh, if you have another like that try chasing it down several rings, its a bear but can be done as this blind ol' fart did it
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Post by: osage outlaw on April 07, 2014, 02:08:59 pm
I'd be happy to shoot a round with you at the classic even if you are using an old bow  ;)
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Post by: Stringman on April 07, 2014, 02:26:41 pm
Heck yeah! You work on getting there, then we'll worry about the bow.
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Post by: simson on April 07, 2014, 03:06:44 pm
the surface looks groovy and crispy. Is the stave harvested in spring, while developing early wood? Could this be the reason for the bang?
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Post by: TacticalFate on April 07, 2014, 03:14:07 pm
yup, that was a piece of bad wood..buckthorn sapwood should be creamy white with a yellow tinge, the dead buckthorn I've cut for firewood has sapwood of that grayish color, rot I suppose.
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Post by: half eye on April 07, 2014, 04:30:17 pm
Hey bud, looks like that break is following a drying check (wind check) maybe just got a tad close to the edge....Dont matter, because if you can,t get the bow out of a stick then it just aint commin out IMHO 8)
If ya know where ya gonna be in say 3-4 days maybe I could have a stick of something waiting on ya, shoot a email or PM ,eh?
rich
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Post by: blackhawk on April 07, 2014, 07:03:59 pm
I agree with Scott....work on getting there first,then worry about a bow...n even if ya didn't have one to shoot I'm sure most of us here would hand ya one to shoot without thinking twice ;) ..heck..ya got time to whip one out yet...make a simple bendy handle no frills bow(its a timeless classic n hard to beat) :) hope to see ya there
Title: Re: buckthorn go bang
Post by: Badly Bent on April 07, 2014, 08:10:50 pm
Sorry to see that Josh. I'm betting that was some you got from me, right? Had I known at the time I would have told ya to chase a few rings to get rid of that gray sapwood, took me 5 broken ones and some advice from Cody to catch on. That stuff was salvaged from a pile someone else cut while clearing a woodlot and I suspect it had set out exposed to the elements a couple months of winter. If you have anymore of it try it with a few rings chased and you should be good to go. I spread alot of that around last year at the classic to some good bowyers not knowing it was bad. I Kind of feel like the guy at woodstock who passed around the brown acid.
Title: Re: buckthorn go bang
Post by: soy on April 07, 2014, 09:35:32 pm
it looks like more of a crack than a bang......Chrome it out throw some chicken lights on and shoot it >:D
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Post by: AH on April 08, 2014, 02:32:29 am
Aw dang
Bow go bang
If you ain't breakin'
You ain't makin'.
I want that on a T-shirt.
Title: Re: buckthorn go bang
Post by: Pappy on April 08, 2014, 08:12:19 am
To bad Josh,it does look to be bad wood to me also. The way you whip them out you still got plenty of time for a new bow at the Classic,hope that works out for you. :)
 Pappy
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Post by: IdahoMatt on April 08, 2014, 10:53:52 am
That's too bad Josh.  Looked like it was going to be a nice one. 

Greg that was pretty funny.  Made me smile first thing this morning.
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Post by: Josh B on April 08, 2014, 06:56:31 pm
Thanks fellas.  Normally 3 weeks would be plenty of time.  However, I have 3 other bows to get done for folks and my goal is to deliver them in person at the classic.  You never know, I might get something whipped up for myself by then as well.  Yeah Greg, it was a piece I got from you.  After it broke, I remembered that you had mentioned that it would be a good idea to chase a few rings down.  I still have a couple more try that on.  The bonus of course being that chasing a few rings down will leave more of that cool heartwood in the bow.  The Woodstock bit made me laugh, but its hardly comparable.  I appreciate you hooking me up with stuff I don't have.  Josh
Title: Re: buckthorn go bang
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on April 08, 2014, 08:49:43 pm
Not everybody see's you as a bad guy at Woodstock Greg..... 8)