Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Marc St Louis on March 13, 2014, 07:58:16 pm
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Here is a bow I am just finishing up for someone. It's a deflex static recurve of HHB backed with Maple. The bow is 64" long with shallow D section limbs just over 1 3/8" wide tapering the 3/8" nocks. Because this bow is for someone I didn't do a great deal of performance optimization but I am sure it is quite fast none the less. I glued in about 4" of reflex and it retained 1" in the end. It pulls 55# @ 28", I have pulled it to 29" to justify its existence :). I still have a bit of finish work to do to it before I can test it.
(http://i.imgur.com/OUlHA2W.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/qhVs0on.jpg)
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as always, sweet, bub
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So cool, I'm Speechless
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You outdid yourself on that one, Marc. Sweet bend.
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Can't argue with that one, very nice. Hopefully some day I'll get there.
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sweet profile, very cool
chuck
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Thank you guys
The bow is very smooth to draw and there's a bit of let off at about 24" of draw. In reality this bow could easily be made 4" shorter for a 28" draw as it's hardly stressed as is
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That's amazing. If ever I had a favorite tiller, this bow has it.
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Good broadhead bow Mark.
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AWESOME! That pretty much sums it up!
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Great looking bow Marc....as usual. Are the recurves doing a whole lot on that design? Hard for me to tell but it appears to be just barely lifting off at full draw.
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This bow seems to have the reflex concentrated further in on the limbs than some of your other D/R bows. Does that have to do with the overall length of the bow being longer, or perhaps because it has statics? Especially after reading through the reflex thread a few weeks ago I'm curious what your design consideration was for this one. Maybe I'm just imagining things, but it can't hurt to ask.
I love how the full draw limbs look like they're hardly bending, even for so much reflex. It's impressive how much that sharp deflex brings them around.
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Nice bow and design Marc, your tillers always look just like they should.
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Man that's a cool looking design. Looks smooth and fast. It almost looks like a modern Egyptian style angular bow. I dig it a lot.
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Nice bend!!!
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As always Marc, beautiful
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Nice bow, Marc... except it's bending a bit too much at the fades. You should try getting a bit more work out of the last third of the limbs. ;D ;D ;D
Just...
kidding!
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I guess its OK ::) :laugh:
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Thanks guys. These bows are a bit more work to make but certainly worth it.
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Sweet! I'm no authority on the profiles of these R/D bows, but this one looks like money to me. Nice work Sir.
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Marc, all of your bows are eye candy to me...Tiller is exceptional as usual from you...
Don
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Beautiful curves,very nice as we have come to expect from you. ;) :) :)
Pappy
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Thanks guys
If you look at the unbraced profile and the full draw you will see that the limbs work to within 6" of the tips with most of the work being done where the limbs are widest. For a bow with tapered limbs this is how they should work to get maximum durability
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My fledgling bow brain can barely understand how and where its bending.
Amazing thing that.
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as always mark, spot on
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Thanks guys.
HHB is one of the top wood species for making bows like these. It is essentially as good as Yew or Osage in this design
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That's über slick bro!
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Is it HHB heartwood? I hardly ever see HHB with heartwood of significance but it is that color if it's there. Is the Maple backing milled or outer growth ring?
Nice all around bow.
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Thanks guys.
HHB is one of the top wood species for making bows like these. It is essentially as good as Yew or Osage in this design
Ever try ipe?
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Heck yeah! that's one sweet looking bow there
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It is actually HHB heartwood Pat. You need a tree at least 6" in diameter for it to start having any substantial amount of heartwood. HHB heartwood is very slick and scrapes like butter. The backing is a quarter sawn strip I cut from a stave.
I started on one about 7 years ago Adam but never finished it, it's still sitting on a rack. I was trying to make it without splicing in the recurves, tough to do. One of these days I'll get back to it
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I generally cut the trees a bit smaller in diameter and have only seen one tree with sizeable heartwood. Oddly it had formed heartwood more like you would expect to see on a Yew or Cedar. Just a small ring of sapwood. There was central decay so it was probably compensating for something by upping the natural preservatives.
I did notice a difference in the texture for sure.
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I tried to heat bend ipe once. It was a disaster.
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Looks great. That would make a nice ground blind bow.
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I tried to heat bend ipe once. It was a disaster.
I found some literature once that claimed Ipe was excellent for steam bending and used extensively for bentwood construction. I wonder if it would react differently if obtained green.
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I tried to heat bend ipe once. It was a disaster.
I found some literature once that claimed Ipe was excellent for steam bending and used extensively for bentwood construction. I wonder if it would react differently if obtained green.
Most likely they used the Ipe for the form and were steam bending something else :)
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They were very adamant that it was used. I'll try to find it.
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The ipe I tried to steam bend moved just slightly more than a cast iron frying pan. :laugh:
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Love those deflexed.bows sir!!
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Wouldn't be hard to pick one of your bows out of an anonymous pile. :)
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Thanks guys
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Justin Snyder did a combo of steam and kerf cuts here with epe but he still had to glue some of the bend in http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l253/justinsnyder_2006/archery/Scoutcamp019.jpg
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I tried to heat bend ipe once. It was a disaster.
I found some literature once that claimed Ipe was excellent for steam bending and used extensively for bentwood construction. I wonder if it would react differently if obtained green.
Most likely they used the Ipe for the form and were steam bending something else :)
Boil it. Best way I've found so far.
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now that bow looks like an exellent combo between speed, durability and manuverability.
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That one's brilliant. It's by far the most beautiful example of this style I've ever seen. Someone's probably going to be very happy with it!
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Thanks guys. The bow turned out well. So much so in fact that I pulled out some more wood to make another.
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Really like your design there Marc. :)
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Hophornbeam. Wish I had that wood in Norway. "Denne buen er helt sjef" Like it. Nothing wrong with the tiller. :D
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I think that this is my favorite bow i have seen on this site to date. Awesome job Marc.
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Thank you guys
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I want one! Wow that is a fine looking bow.
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Thanks again all
I shot the bow several times today with a 530 grain arrow. It is fast