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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Joec123able on February 18, 2014, 05:14:04 pm

Title: What ya think
Post by: Joec123able on February 18, 2014, 05:14:04 pm: Got this weird lookin stave and can't make up my mind on what to do with it. Should I go bendy handle ? And what should I do with that weird reflexed spot

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Very clean back
Title: Re: What ya think
Post by: Gsulfridge on February 18, 2014, 05:20:35 pm: That looks like something that Blackhawk or Matt Wirwiki would tackle. Maybe they will chime in with some suggestions.
Title: Re: What ya think
Post by: paulsemp on February 18, 2014, 05:34:13 pm: yeah I would ask blackhawk. I'm sure he will tell you to make a bow with a setback handle considering it's his favorite design.
Title: Re: What ya think
Post by: Pat B on February 18, 2014, 05:36:35 pm: I'd take it down to floor tiller size and use heat to even it up. It will take a few sessions for a bend like that but it can be done.
...or you could just g ahead and tiller it out as it is. ::)
Title: Re: What ya think
Post by: burchett.donald on February 18, 2014, 05:37:12 pm: What's the length?
Title: Re: What ya think
Post by: Joec123able on February 18, 2014, 05:39:26 pm: About 60 inches long
Title: Re: What ya think
Post by: Joec123able on February 18, 2014, 05:41:34 pm: Quote from: Pat B on February 18, 2014, 05:36:35 pm
I'd take it down to floor tiller size and use heat to even it up. It will take a few sessions for a bend like that but it can be done.
...or you could just g ahead and tiller it out as it is. ::)

The spot is right where about mid limb wil be I'm wondering if bending to be even could damage the wood at all On the compression side ?
Title: Re: What ya think
Post by: Pat B on February 18, 2014, 05:47:26 pm: The heat actually strengthens the wood a bit like tempering it. I've straightened some pretty crooked osage and never had a problem with the wood because of it. Take it slow and only work a little at a time. Let it cool completely before starting the next session. Don't force it too much at a time.
Title: Re: What ya think
Post by: Badger on February 18, 2014, 05:49:41 pm: Rough out the bow then put it on a cawl with some heat and clamps then iron it out like a shirt. Then pray!
Title: Re: What ya think
Post by: Joec123able on February 18, 2014, 05:55:25 pm: Quote from: Badger on February 18, 2014, 05:49:41 pm
Rough out the bow then put it on a cawl with some heat and clamps then iron it out like a shirt. Then pray!

Lol Will do
Title: Re: What ya think
Post by: Bryce on February 18, 2014, 06:19:04 pm: Hell id leave the dog leg. Yeah a bit of a tricky tiller, but super BA.
Title: Re: What ya think
Post by: Dances with squirrels on February 18, 2014, 07:43:28 pm: I'm with Bryce. I'd just make the bow. Test my skills. Test my tillering/timing knowledge. Test my eye. Challenge and reward baby.
Title: Re: What ya think
Post by: Joec123able on February 18, 2014, 07:58:39 pm: Okay I guess I will just rough it out an see if I want to just leave it or not I have plenty of wood for a stiff handle but I may go bendy handle anyways
Title: Re: What ya think
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 18, 2014, 08:17:16 pm: I'd cut it off at the kink and join it with another good half.
Title: Re: What ya think
Post by: Badly Bent on February 18, 2014, 11:17:51 pm: I like me an occasional wonky stave but, ....dang man. It is osage though so who know what shape you might be able to form it into once thinned down a bunch. I do wanna see what you do with it Joe, ought to be interesting.
Title: Re: What ya think
Post by: soy on February 18, 2014, 11:23:08 pm: Looks like a Stoneberg stave lol >:D
Title: Re: What ya think
Post by: rps3 on February 18, 2014, 11:24:10 pm: The back looks real clean. If it was mine I would also work to floor tiller and then straighten with heat.
Title: Re: What ya think
Post by: Joec123able on February 18, 2014, 11:35:11 pm: Quote from: Badly Bent on February 18, 2014, 11:17:51 pm
I like me an occasional wonky stave but, ....dang man. It is osage though so who know what shape you might be able to form it into once thinned down a bunch. I do wanna see what you do with it Joe, ought to be interesting.

You can bet it will probably be an odd bow and I'm gonna try my best to get a nice one from it lol
Title: Re: What ya think
Post by: simson on February 19, 2014, 04:57:57 am: I would use it for plains bows, I see about 3 staves (belly splits). I would cut it down, so the kink becomes a natural set back handle.

Second idea: split it, use it as billets, cut off a piece from the short side and you get a nice pair of billets with a kinda natural static recurve
Title: Re: What ya think
Post by: Pappy on February 19, 2014, 06:16:46 am: Floor tiller and straighten as others have said, I have straightened worse than
that many times. :) If it is clean you can do most anything you want with it. :)
Pappy
Title: Re: What ya think
Post by: blackhawk on February 19, 2014, 07:23:25 am: Some good answers there for ya,but haven't seen this one yet.....how bout selling,trading,or giving it away and pick a better piece of wood 8)
Title: Re: What ya think
Post by: TRACY on February 19, 2014, 07:25:26 am: Steam and clamp to the caul.

Tracy
Title: Re: What ya think
Post by: adb on February 19, 2014, 07:35:49 am: Don't think you'll get a bow outta that without some heat correction.
Title: Re: What ya think
Post by: SLIMBOB on February 19, 2014, 08:22:43 am: Rough it out and heat some of the kink out.
Title: Re: What ya think
Post by: Joec123able on February 19, 2014, 10:14:27 am: Quote from: blackhawk on February 19, 2014, 07:23:25 am
Some good answers there for ya,but haven't seen this one yet.....how bout selling,trading,or giving it away and pick a better piece of wood 8)

;D lol hmm
Title: Re: What ya think
Post by: Wooden Spring on February 19, 2014, 12:14:38 pm: Personally, I'd cut it into 10" x 2" x 3/4" strips and use them for handle glue ups. ;)
Title: Re: What ya think
Post by: George Tsoukalas on February 19, 2014, 12:46:41 pm: Floor tiller and heat like was said above. Jawge
Title: Re: What ya think
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 19, 2014, 01:14:50 pm: Quote from: Wooden Spring on February 19, 2014, 12:14:38 pm
Personally, I'd cut it into 10" x 2" x 3/4" strips and use them for handle glue ups. ;)

Man! That's like taking brand new tires off the truck to make a swing for the kids.......
Title: Re: What ya think
Post by: Bryce on February 19, 2014, 01:52:13 pm: Ah hell man send me the stave and I'll send yah I nice straight stave. ;D
Title: Re: What ya think
Post by: Joec123able on February 19, 2014, 02:32:49 pm: Quote from: PEARL DRUMS on February 19, 2014, 01:14:50 pm
Quote from: Wooden Spring on February 19, 2014, 12:14:38 pm
Personally, I'd cut it into 10" x 2" x 3/4" strips and use them for handle glue ups. ;)

Man! That's like taking brand new tires off the truck to make a swing for the kids.......

Yea that's not gonna happen and even if I wanted to I have no way to do that anyway

Quote from: Bryce (Pinecone) on February 19, 2014, 01:52:13 pm
Ah hell man send me the stave and I'll send yah I nice straight stave. ;D

;D haha I think I'm down for the challenge